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Old 08-25-2009, 01:19 AM   #1
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ok guys i just recently got my 97 wrangler. I got a 3 inch body lift, 35 inch tires, and a couple other randoms here and there. My only concern is the same issue my dads type-x had is that the 5th gear pretty much sucks. I was looking to add a couple bolt ons to boost the power a little bit for more pull, im not looking to gain shit in gas milage i know that is all blown out. Im lookin at these to do
Hypertech or similar style programmer,
air intake,
new plugs and aftermarket wires,
throttle body, maybe
exhaust, maybe
do you think the first two will help by giving it a little more power in 5th?
thanks for the info ahead of time, im new to jeeps, not to engines i just dont want to waste my money on stuff that wont work.

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Old 08-25-2009, 04:43 AM   #2
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Gearing.... what gears do you have with the 35's

Most of those itmes really wont gain you that much.
Your better off removing the 3" Body lift and using the money on a better suspension lift.

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Old 08-25-2009, 06:57 AM   #3
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yah right after i thought about the gearing, its the stock gearing, so i really dont know
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Based on a few searches I've done there isn't much you can do for more power without forced induction or v8. Matching gears to your tire size would be the best way to give it a little more umph. There is a metal tag on the rear diff that shows the gearing. But a 3 inch body lift is not a good thing by most peoples standards.

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Old 08-25-2009, 08:37 AM   #5
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3" body lifts rock. Awsome legendary stock jeep suspension performance with added room for larger tires. Guys in WWII didn't need lift kits on their jeeps to kick butt.
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3" body lifts rock. Awsome legendary stock jeep suspension performance with added room for larger tires. Guys in WWII didn't need lift kits on their jeeps to kick butt.
Except the TJ and the WWII jeep suspensions are 2 different setups...not that it matters. Enjoy your

Higher of center of gravity never a good thing. if you want to be cheap and fit larger tires rip off your fenders.
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A throttle body spacer is fairly cheap and your mind will tell you that it is "hecka" faster.
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My engine and transmission are still at stock height so the higher center of gravity concept is in my opinion wrong. I've had jacked up monsters and stockers and when you raise your engine and tranny half a foot above where jeep engineers designed it then your asking for trouble in the hilly woods unless you move your tires outboard which may be a tight fit going between trees. I loved my lifted jeeps and my stock jeeps but knocking a body lift is more sport than fact. Suspension lifts only lift the frame and throws off the steering geometry, the axle is only raised off the ground by bigger tire size. Check out the recent threads on stock capabilities.
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yah i actually enjoy my body lift it came like it but my dad had one with a suspension lift and the ride was hella rough, im not off roading junkie i just like going down the forest trails and such. but yah im not expecting this thing to haul ass i just want a little more umph i guess
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Gear to 4.56 would help the most with a 5spd or 4.88 with auto. as for the bl, a 3"bl is a saftey issue as well, as it takes less of an impact to knock it off then a shorter body lift.
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Good man. Think for yourself.
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Gearing will give you the most "bang for your buck" all that other stuff may increase your "butt dyno" numbers but that is about it. As for your lift if you like it that is all that matters, you will talk to 10 different people and get 12 different opinions on that subject
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The most recent JP magazine has a good article comparing more horses to lower gearing. Lower gearing won.
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ok so lower gearing is the way to go, thanks guys, but just for shits and giggles has anyone put a programmer to their jeep?
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A throttle body spacer is fairly cheap and your mind will tell you that it is "hecka" faster.
The throttle body spacer helps somewhat on a vehicle with throttle body injection. On a Jeep the injectors are at the cylinders, therefore the spacer does absolutely nothing to increase the air/fuel mixing. If you feel a power increase using one, it's all in your mind.

X2 on the dislike for 3" body lift. It looks wierd with all that open space between the tub and frame. Additionally, it puts a lot of stress on the body mount bolts when they are that long.

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yes yes we know everyone hates the 3 in body lift this is apparently a war on every thread i have read. but i cant justify a thousand dollars and 6 hours of labor to get the same lift i have now and get a worse ride, thats for the summer i guess. but thanks everyone for your help
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Who said worse ride? just because you have taken or driven one jeep that rides like crap doesn't mean all lifts are like that. For a 4in lift cost me 530 bucks with everything I needed to drive it. Road great. I think you need to get out there and see some other jeeps. What lift does your dad have? His might be a old rough country were the shocks felt like they were just pieces of metal making them way to stiff.
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yes yes we know everyone hates the 3 in body lift this is apparently a war on every thread i have read. but i cant justify a thousand dollars and 6 hours of labor to get the same lift i have now and get a worse ride, thats for the summer i guess. but thanks everyone for your help
It's called a Budget boost look into it. =P
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Get used to being called out and having people give you their opinion on the 3 inch body lift. This is tame compared to the shit you would get on pirate. =P

It's not meant to make you feel bad it's just good advice from people who know a thing or two.

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