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Old 01-30-2011, 04:52 PM   #1
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Cant shift into 2,4, or reverse after BL and MML!! HELP

TroutBumTJ"]Ok so I ended up not having to go into work today so i thought I would do my MML after doing my BL yesterday. Well after a daunting task I took my 2004 Rubi out for a test drive. TROUBLE immediately. I could not get it in reverse. Took it out and I found I can't get it in 2nd, 4th, or Reverse. Basically all the bottom gears on the shifter. What do I do now???

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Old 01-30-2011, 04:59 PM   #2
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Loosen the 4 bolts up on the bottom of your transmission ( on the bottom of your skid plate) take a prybar or something and move it forward.Then try that if that doesn't work then move it back some.I had the same problem.

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Old 01-30-2011, 05:02 PM   #3
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What exactly am I moving forward?
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:03 PM   #4
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If I lift up on the boot (considerably) I can get it into gear.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:06 PM   #5
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Must likely yours shift boots are inhibiting you to get into gear. You can try taking off your lower boot first to see it that fixes it. I ended up also "making" a new upper shift boot by buying a synthetic leather boot from autozone it think it was $10. Then I took the OEM rubber boot off of the plastic frame and slipped the new boot over it. Just be careful cuz the plasitc frame might be a little brittle.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:01 PM   #6
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X2 on that. I ordered a universal shift boot from jc Whitney. First use a small flathead screwdriver to pry out the center cap of your shifter. Under that you will see a nut. Remove it. Pull off your shift knob. Then use a screwdriver to carefully pry the bottom of the shift boot out of the console, then remove shift boot. Remove the plastic piece from the rubber boot. Slip the new boot around the plastic piece. Some people will apply glue to keep the new boot on, I did not. Then put it all together. If your new shift boot is taller than it needs to be just push in the area at the lowest point of the boot. This will make the boot fit lower on the stick, allowing for easier shifts. The universal boot I bought was fake leather. Maybe $12. Looks fine.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:08 PM   #7
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Jeremy04 has a very good point and by loosening the transmission mount and moving the transmission forward will probably fix the problem. When you moved the motor it changed where the transmission needs or wants to be. Easy to try and may be your long term correction to the problem. It only needs to move 1/2 to 1 inch to fix it.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:27 PM   #8
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That will fix your problem,not a new shifter boot.It is a easy fix.Had the same problem when I did my MML and BL.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:45 PM   #9
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You cannot move the transmission forward, it is bolted directly to the engine. Loosening the four nuts in the skidplate to allow the transmission mount to realign itself is a good idea but I doubt it willl help the shifting problem as the below fix will.

The body lift has raised the console shifter boot opening the shifter protrudes through which has restricted how far back the shifter can be moved. Remove the 4-5 sheet metal screws holding the console to the floor and move the console back maybe an inch. Then drill some small holes in the floor for the new sheet metal screw locations and reinsert the console screws into the new holes to remount the console. Moving the console back slightly will likely fix the shifting problem.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:20 PM   #10
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Thanks for all the advice. I was a little confused about pulling the transmission forward as it is bolted to the frame and engine. I pulled the boot off and it will shift all gears but will still bump the plastic a bit. I think I will take Jerry's advice and move the entire thing back an inch. I was worried when I couldn't shift the gears, I thought I lifted the engine too high during the MML install and this may have damaged the trans or something. Happy to see that it's just a clearance issue. Took the jeep out for a little ride and everything rode well. Can't wait to get the new tires and wheels on. Is there a write up with pictures somewhere on moving the the console and armrest back?
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I will try the skidplate bolt removal idea first, can't hurt.
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:25 PM   #12
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Have you tried your 4wd yet?
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:34 PM   #13
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Have you tried your 4wd yet?
I shifted it into 4wd and it moves pretty effortlessly from 2wd to 4 hi and then 4 low. Hey quick question. Why does the 4wd light on the dash come on for 4lo but not 4hi?
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Old 01-30-2011, 10:38 PM   #14
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DevilDogDoc, physician or veterinarian?
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Neither former Navy Corpsman. And your light for 4WD should work in hi and lo both. It should go off in neutral then back on in lo.
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Neither former Navy Corpsman. And your light for 4WD should work in hi and lo both. It should go off in neutral then back on in lo.
Yep, I was curious so I looked it up. I found a post on another forum with a similar issue. Apparently its the relay on the transfer case.
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:28 PM   #17
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Well I talked with my father in law who is a mechanic. Italian sports cars are his thing but he has worked on many 4x4's in the past. His recommendation was to loosen the crossbolt on both motor mounts, particularly the passenger's side since it is slotted. And loosen the transmission mount bolts on the skid plate which are also slotted. With everything loosened, work the transmission in and out of 1st and reverse a couple of times coming to a full stop between (not going fast or anything). This will allow the engine to torque in both directions and release any bind that the engine or transmission might be in. If there's still clearance issues, then as mentioned earlier try to move the transmission mounts forward a bit by using the pry bar technique, tightening them first and the motormount crossbolts second.

I thought this made sense and would be worth a try. I will let you guys know what I find out.
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Old 02-05-2011, 08:52 AM   #18
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OK so i'm an idiot. I just saw that the PO had a transfer case drop installed. I noticed the square tubing between the skid plate and frame before but I thought it was stock. But the more I thought about it, it just didn't make sense as to why Jeep would design it that way. I hope nothing was hurt by having both the MML and TC drop installed for a short time. Maybe drove it 5 miles. I'm gonna remove the drop as soon as i get home tonight. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this was the problem all along.
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Removing the transfer case drop should solve your shifting problem - the boots are restricting movement of the shift lever. The side effect of removing the T.C. drop will be that your driveline angles change and you could start to get some vibes.
The answer to your shifting problem is separate from the T.C. drop; you will have to move the consol back and perhaps relieve the sheet metal around the shift lever in order to get enough aft movement to get it solidly into gear.
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