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Old 10-30-2008, 05:29 PM   #1
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Clutch/shifter noise 2000 Wrangler

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I'm new to the forum and am trying to diagnose a noise problem I have following the recent installation of a new clutch (87,000 miles on original) in my 2000 Wrangler. Since the replacement of the clutch and throwout bearing last week, by a Jeep Service department, the vehicle is noisier beneath the shifter housing and the shifting lever vibrates from time to time while the vehicle is idling in Neutral. Depressing the clutch will cause the noise and vibration in the shifter to stop.

I'd appreciate any responses to my inquiry.

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Old 10-30-2008, 09:33 PM   #2
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Well if it where still the factory one I would say the sounds sound normal, as that year is known for noise that go's away when the clutch is pressed. However if it didn't do it before and is now doing it, I would have the dealer look it over. How long are they going warranty it for you?

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:03 AM   #3
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There have been some other issues with the new clutch installation: Originally the shifter knob was incorrectly re-installed, then the console was damaged and the shifter boot frame work broken by the mechanic and left, hopefully, undiscovered by us but it totally fell apart. The clutch is "quick" and the pedal's mushy - almost like "popping" the clutch when you upshift and downshift - nothing like it was originally - we're told it could take 3,000 miles for the clutch to break-in (?). The Service Manager's said he'll replace the clutch if we're unhappy with it. Should we take him up on his generous offer - assuming the original mechanic isn't allowed to touch the vehicle, as the conditioln he originally left the vehicle in has made us suspect of the entire installation.

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Old 10-31-2008, 08:50 AM   #4
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it sounds to me like the service manager at the dealership knows the mechanic screwed up that's why he is so willing to replace the clutch. i would have them replace it again b/c they so totally screwed it up the first time. how many miles have you driven it since the replacement?
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Yes, I would have it replaced, now vs waiting. I also would ask who the best tech is for this job, hopefully not the one that worked on it last time. Its been a while since I had clutch replaced, but I don't recall a break in period, where it did funny things.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:19 AM   #6
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We've driven it about 500 miles since the new clutch. In the process of having to remove the clutch mounting frame, the bolts were chiseled off and the frame reattached via welding. Seemed like a rather improper way to go about it. Is it common for components on the underside of the vehicle to be destroyed in order to work on the vehicle and then be welded back in place? Won't this cause them problems during the next repair job?

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We've driven it about 500 miles since the new clutch. In the process of having to remove the clutch mounting frame, the bolts were chiseled off and the frame reattached via welding. Seemed like a rather improper way to go about it. Is it common for components on the underside of the vehicle to be destroyed in order to work on the vehicle and then be welded back in place? Won't this cause them problems during the next repair job?

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Take pictures... tell the dealer you want to meet with a zone rep on this damage to your jeep.. as this just keeps getting worse from what you are telling us..
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there is no such thing as a clutch mounting frame........the pressure plate mounts to the flywheel and puts pressure on the clutch plate......sounds like they f-ed up your flywheel and/or your tranny.......i would take it back and make it right......u are gonna end up stranded.....i put 5 clutches in my 01 before i went to a new driveline and it always drove like new when they were in.........i actually never lost a clutch...it was always the throwout bearing that went soo i just replaced the clutch everytime while the tranny was out.......it was worth it for the cost
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Old 11-01-2008, 01:19 PM   #9
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I crawled underneath the Jeep this afternoon. The frame that has the missing bolts is the large cross frame underneath the bell housing (I hope I'm describing things more or less accurately as I'm not the most automotively savvy individual on the planet). I don't see any obvious signs of welding, but was assured by the Service Manager that the frame had to be welded back on as some of the mounting bolts were too rusted to be saved and had to be chiseled off. Does the clutch noise we're experiencing sound more like throughout bearing noise?
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Run, dont walk! Back to the dealer for your total invested amount back...Then head straight to another reputable transmission / clutch facility and have them record via cam / vid what the other service department did to your jeep. Then hustled on down to your city hall and bbb and share with the proper folks the service foto's.

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We took the Service Manager up on his offer to replace the clutch. The new clutch is fine - behaves like the old one (not quick and noisy under the shifting lever), no soft pedal, and doesn't make rattling noises in the area of the bell housing when hitting surface bumps etc.

Here's the story we got from the Service Manager: Seems folks don't buy Jeeps with manual transmissions anymore (Huh?) and their Service Department hasn't replaced a clutch in over 8 years (TILT!). He assured us that #1, the mechanic who did the original work, messed up the shifter knob and then broke the shifter boot was not allowed to work on the new clutch installation, and that #2 three other people, including the Service Manager, went over every part of the clutch during each phase of the new installation. Don't these people need to maintain certain service capabilities? It seems like they succeeded.

We're happy with the new clutch and the Jeep dealer's cooperation in ensuring our complete satisfaction. With nobody able to afford new vehicles any more, the Service Departments are all that'll keep many dealerships solvent. I hope they realize that.

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