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Old 04-10-2013, 09:59 PM   #1
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Control Arm Question

I recently installed a zone 3 inch suspension kit which keeps the factory control arms. I have a 2 in bl but i dont think it affects cas.. Anyway my question is that when i was getting it aligned it was on an electrical alignment machine and it noted my rear was not centered by a degree or so. Also everything went good on the front except caster i think which was when he adjusted control arms.. They only had so much thread left to spin. He suggested i get tubular control arms to fix the rear and to help the front. Should i buy new control arms? If so which ones(upper and/or lower for front and/or rear) or should i just deal with it since tires should wear evenly since the only problem on front is returning steering to straight isnt as quick as it could be. Or are there other options? Any advice will help. Just trying to figure out if i should be in the market for CAs or not. Also which brands if i need them?

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Old 04-11-2013, 12:37 AM   #2
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I put a 2.5" lift on my LJ last fall. A week or so ago I noticed a vibration that seemed to be coming from the right front. Jacked the front up, and could not find any issues. Took her to get aligned. Pretty soon, the manager came in and asked me to come out to the shop, they needed to show me something! Great!, this can't be good. Both rear upper control arms are snapped!

Brought her home and ordered adjustable control arms from Morris. Just checked, they should be here tomorrow. In the mean time, we've had our only real snow storm this winter (11+ inches), and I'm stuck driving the yota! Hopefully they will arrive in the morning.

To answer your question, yes get the new adjustable control arms!

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Old 04-11-2013, 07:10 AM   #3
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Hahah holy cow thats no good! Ya i was going to grt the adjustables i just dont know which brand yet. And if i should buy all 8 of them or just select ones. Which ones did you buy? Like brand and location on jeep?
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To center the rear you need an adjustable track bar, not control arms. For the front some adjustables wouldn't be a bad idea. You can always start with those and add the rears later. MetalCloak and Savvy will be your best options. I have MetalCloaks on the way right now.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:30 AM   #5
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I have an adjustable front track bar and a relocation bracket on the rear. But thats a goodpoint maybe thats the problem on the rear but like he said its off by like .8 or 1 degree so idk how bad that is or if its hurting anything. And thanks on the brand names ill look some up today. Anyone have any other suggestioms on brands while im looking?
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:32 AM   #6
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I would ask what he means bu not centered then.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:43 AM   #7
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If they told you the rear wasn't "centered", and used degrees as the unit of measure, they're likely talking about thrust angle, as in the rear axle (and/ or front axle) are not square under the Jeep. The rear axle (and/ or the front) can be way off to one side and the Jeep can still have zero or little thrust angle.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:46 AM   #8
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Ya i dont know because you made a good point about it being track bar but while it was on the alignment machine he said now your rear is off by a degree and i cant fix your front perfectly, tires will wear fine but if you want the perfect alignment then i suggest some adjustable control arms. Plus your bushings in the old ones are about shot so new control arms is probably way to go. I just wonder how it fixes rear? Maybe theres stress on the old ones makin it unable to straighten. If so that backs up wyominer about his cracking
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Wow, a set of all 8 runs about $1000. I dont have a grand to drop on control arms. Are there certain ones i could get to fix my problem? Like front lowers and rear uppers or any combo?
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Will do, ill also check with allen at allens offroad on here. Hes who i ordered my lift from. Ill check with both, two heads are better than one! Thanks for a name!
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Wow, a set of all 8 runs about $1000. I dont have a grand to drop on control arms. Are there certain ones i could get to fix my problem? Like front lowers and rear uppers or any combo?
My bushings are pretty bad, and I am also wondering which arms to swap first. I would be swapping in savvy arms
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Wow, a set of all 8 runs about $1000. I dont have a grand to drop on control arms. Are there certain ones i could get to fix my problem? Like front lowers and rear uppers or any combo?
Start with the rears. There is a reason they are so pricy. Extremely well designed, strong and the best bushings you will find for flexing, the Metalcloaks are a little more on road comfortable than the Savvy's from what I have read.

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