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Old 08-19-2010, 12:26 AM   #1
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control arm woes!!

Ok my jeep was lifted when I bought it. I think its a pro comp lift cause it has pro comp stickers on one of the control arms and it had them on the side steps. But u know how ppl are with stickers (like Rubi stickers on a TJ when its not, cobra stickers on a V6 stang)......... U get my point.... My question is about the bushings on each arm. If they need to be replaced will there be a lot of noise coming from the front of rear when I hit a bump. I had a problem that drew my attention to the front control arm bushings. They feel solid to me when I yank on them but I don't think that is a very good test of how solid they actually are. There isn't any play in them when I turn the wheel back and forth but my whole front axle housing shifts when I stomp on the brakes. Jerry suggested it was the bushings and another suggested the calipers could have a broken bolt (they are all good). But if I decide to get new bushings will I need to know what kind of lift I have. And if I supply some pics of the lift can someone put a finger in what brand it may be. Thanks for any help.

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Post up some pics and we'll see what we can tell you.

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Ok when I get off work and home ill post some up.
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ok so here are some pics of my control arms and springs. The jeep has skyjacker and pro comp shocks on it... So those are my two guesses!!! Dont mind the grease spots my new u-joint that i put way to much grease in and on slung the excess all over the place
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Get close up shots of all the bushings on each control arm, inside and out, as well as the bolts. Mostly the fronts, since that is where you are saying the problem is occuring.(only the top photo is of the front axle)

Stock upper CAs all around, fixed aftermarket lowers. Not the best combo if you are over 2.5" of lift.
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You may take a few pics of the sway bar also on each side. Sometimes the bushings will wear out causing the sway bar to hit against the frame, and I know that can make some clunking also. Just a suggestion
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Ok I will get the pics posted in the morning when I get off work (I work nights). Is just buying new control arms even a possibility. I was looking at some sweet adjustable uppers and lowers on Rustys offroad earlier. Can I buy a new lift piece by piece and just swap them as I go or will I just have to buy an entire new lift to upgrade what I have? Will new adjustable control arms make a difference in ride/offroad handle?
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Ok I will get the pics posted in the morning when I get off work (I work nights). Is just buying new control arms even a possibility. I was looking at some sweet adjustable uppers and lowers on Rustys offroad earlier. Can I buy a new lift piece by piece and just swap them as I go or will I just have to buy an entire new lift to upgrade what I have? Will new adjustable control arms make a difference in ride/offroad handle?
You can replace arms or you can replace bushings. The arms that have "johnny joints" on them are supposed to be better because the relieve alot of the stress that the control arm can put on the brackets. As far as ride quality goes, Im not sure if it would improve or not as I am still currently running "jointless" control arms
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You can buy as you go, but I would do them in at least pairs. Also rustys are not the best... I would look at currie adjustable ones as lots of folks have been saying good things about them.
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You can buy as you go, but I would do them in at least pairs. Also rustys are not the best... I would look at currie adjustable ones as lots of folks have been saying good things about them.
Rokmen also looks to sell some pretty nice arms too.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:35 PM   #11
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I can tell you right now that it is not a Pro-Comp lift, That is a SkyJacker lift. Pro-Comp paints their control arms and springs a silver/grey color and uses blue bushings. Skyjacker uses black/red paint and uses red bushings. Unless it has been painted and the bushings changed you have an early Skyjacker lift kit.
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x2 on the Currie or Rokmen arms with double Johnny Joints . . . expecially if you wheel, the bushings don't tend to last. Could be SkyJacker or Procomp . . . unlike the previous poster mentioned, the Procomp lift that my buddy had came with Red bushings like the ones in your pics . . . wouldn't surprise me if multiple companies use the same bushings.
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Ok lancetkenyon.......... I got a bunch of pics coming ur way, control arm bushings and a pic of one of my upper arms that appears to be bent.... Thanks again for everyones help..
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The Third picture in post 15 is the last pic of the front bushings. The rest are of the rear control arms. The pic of the control arm is the one i think may be bent just a little. Its an upper cant remember if its a front or back arm though. The bushings on the factory upper arms are hard as a rock... not much give to them at all. All those arms are going as soon as i can afford some Rokmen adjustable short arms. That lift just looks jankey to me. Its a 3" lift i believe, so would those be factory springs?
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Any body...... Do these bushings appear to be ok??
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Bushings don't look too bad except for maybe the one on the front upper on top of the differential. The the one with you pointing to it does look to be a little tweaked. Other than that the only way to really tell is by taking the arms off to inspect.

They all appear to look ok though.
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Ok thanks AZ. Will poly bushings be a good replacement for any that are worn out. Or can I switch to a Johnny joint.
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Maybe it's a bastardized lift like mine, either way it needs some help.
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Ok my jeep was lifted when I bought it. I think its a pro comp lift cause it has pro comp stickers on one of the control arms and it had them on the side steps. But u know how ppl are with stickers (like Rubi stickers on a TJ when its not, cobra stickers on a V6 stang)......... U get my point.... My question is about the bushings on each arm. If they need to be replaced will there be a lot of noise coming from the front of rear when I hit a bump. I had a problem that drew my attention to the front control arm bushings. They feel solid to me when I yank on them but I don't think that is a very good test of how solid they actually are. There isn't any play in them when I turn the wheel back and forth but my whole front axle housing shifts when I stomp on the brakes. Jerry suggested it was the bushings and another suggested the calipers could have a broken bolt (they are all good). But if I decide to get new bushings will I need to know what kind of lift I have. And if I supply some pics of the lift can someone put a finger in what brand it may be. Thanks for any help.
I've have a similar looking setup. I had a similar problem and nothing like a good ol spray can of white lithium grease to take care of that. Try it on all the arms and any places that flex or rub. Sometimes it's the little things like dry bushings that make big noise.
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MOst look OK from the photos, but they might be worn out and you will not know unless you actually take the bolt out and look at the bushing.

I agree the stock drivers side front upper at the diff looks pretty trashed.
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I will say that I had a front end clunk when braking. I got a set of rear uppers for my SYE I'll be doing and had planned to put the lowers in back. But I ended up putting them in front to improve my castor and be stronger as I approach obstacles.

The thunking is gone now. Taking the stock lowers off, my bushings were SHOT SHOT SHOT. After using the adjustable lowers to correct for castor, my steering is a LOT better, it rides better, and is more quiet from no clunking! My bushings did look FINE while they were installed, but once pulled out, you could see how the rubber had dried out and separated.
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Ok I'm gonna go ahead and start replacing bushings for now. Would keeping my fixed lowers and replacing the stock uppers with some adjustable arms do me good. Or should I buy fixed uppers and adjustable lowers. Would there be a difference in the two setups.
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Adjustable uppers are a good idea, lowers would be nice but not necessary really.
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Cool........Thanks so much for everyones input and patience with my problem.

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