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Old 08-31-2013, 06:42 PM   #31
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It's definitely off centered I took it to get it realigned couple days ago and they said they couldn't do it because the track bar was too wore out
The track bar looks like it is bent more than it should be which is why I asked if the axle was off-center.

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Old 08-31-2013, 09:00 PM   #32
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Bro, just do yourself a big favor and a solid. Return that cr@p, go grab the ZJ upgrade kit with a Metal Cloak front trackbar. You can have an entire new front end for under $300 and that's with the highest clearance TB on the market from MC.
Ok so quick question. It's the tie rod and heavier duty ZJ ends for that autozone upgrade? I found the long travel and fixed MC track bars on their website. Which one were you talking about?

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The track bar looks like it is bent more than it should be which is why I asked if the axle was off-center.
Any input on the suggested ZJ equipment and MC track bar Jerry?
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Ok so quick question. It's the tie rod and heavier duty ZJ ends for that autozone upgrade? I found the long travel and fixed MC track bars on their website. Which one were you talking about?
Do a search on google for stu's zj tie rod upgrade.....all the part #'s will be listed and are available through autozone or any other chain parts store.

MC has only on tb for the tj front. Im sure Jerry will eagerly give it 2 thumbs up like he does for all MC products which are made right here in the USA. Imped sure will.
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Metal Cloak? Not me, you have an overly vivid imagination.
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Metal Cloak? Not me, you have an overly vivid imagination.
I keep forgetting Metal Cloak is a direct competitor to your close associates........lol.
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Do a search on google for stu's zj tie rod upgrade.....all the part #'s will be listed and are available through autozone or any other chain parts store.

MC has only on tb for the tj front. Im sure Jerry will eagerly give it 2 thumbs up like he does for all MC products which are made right here in the USA. Imped sure will.
Gotcha on the MC track bar looked at the long travel REAR. Good now
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NJO thanks for the info on the ZJ upgrades. I'm gonna look into that when I get off work tomorrow. I looked on that website with the part numbers and might end up going with Jerry's advice to send the stuff back for a refund and yours to do the ZJ swap! You guys have been great, I appreciate all the input!
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Steering research

Here is an interesting article on types of steering and the pros and cons.

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I keep forgetting Metal Cloak is a direct competitor to your close associates........lol.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:34 AM   #42
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Cross-over steering systems have a great reputation for causing steering problems like bump steer. My TJ is very well built & the last type of steering system I'd install is a cross-over.
I think you have cross over confused with inverted t
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I think you have cross over confused with inverted t
Agreed.

"Crossover" can be very well done if executed properly and with quality parts.

Look at WJ knuckle and JK axle swaps. Both are examples of "crossover" steering with the drag link and tie rods attaching to separate steering arms on the passenger side knuckle. Understand some simple geometry and get the track bar correct and you'll wind up with a very nice setup.

But if you're sticking with TJ axles/knuckles, it can be heavily debated if the WJ knuckle swap is worth it. That's the entire reason the Vanco kit exists. Contrary to popular belief, there really is absolutely nothing wrong with the TJ/XJ inverted Y linkage orientation. Nothing at all.
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Do a search on google for stu's zj tie rod upgrade.....all the part #'s will be listed and are available through autozone or any other

Looks like Stu's Offroad runs a crossover steering too.

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Toys by Troy Alumi-flex
Cross-Over Steering Part Numbers



I'm starting to hand these part numbers out more frequently now that the rod ends are beginning to wear out and folks are replacing them. I've done mine once (I did both sides but only one side had gone bad).


Anyway, here are the numbers:

ES2234R Right hand tie rod end
ES2010L Left hand tie rod end

ES2026R Right hand drag link end
ES2027L Left hand drag link end

The above are Perfect Circle part numbers but any parts store worth anything should be able to cross reference them. Most parts manufacturer use the same numbers.
Stu's Offroad Crossover steering
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Alright, question for you guys.

I bent the stock tie rod and had to install another stock one on the trail to get home. I'm now looking at upgrades.

Is a Zj tie rod good enough? I know it will then make my drag link the weak point. How weak is it?

Or is it really worth the money to just get the Currie?

Running 33's and next tire purchase in a couple years will be 35's.
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Since you plan to run 35" tires eventually, I would upgrade to Currie's heavy duty Currectlync steering kit. That way you won't have to upgrade twice which costs more $$$.
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Looks like Stu's Offroad runs a crossover steering too.

Stu's Offroad Crossover steering
No, Stu does not run crossover steering.
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Since you plan to run 35" tires eventually, I would upgrade to Currie's heavy duty Currectlync steering kit. That way you won't have to upgrade twice which costs more $$$.
Cool, thanks Jerry. Time to go price hunting!
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Savvy Offroad usually has very good pricing on Currie products.
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Since you plan to run 35" tires eventually, I would upgrade to Currie's heavy duty Currectlync steering kit. That way you won't have to upgrade twice which costs more $$$.
Good advice, Jerry. I have been driving my Jeep daily to work, and the bad bumpsteer, shimmy and occassional Death Wobble are now gone.

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Savvy Offroad usually has very good pricing on Currie products.
True - my friend Mike paid exactly this amount at the Off Road Expo on his Currectlync system:

CURRIE CE-9701 CURRECTLYNC® - HD TIE ROD SYSTEM - Savvy Off Road Aluminum

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