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Old 07-11-2012, 12:01 PM   #631
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So far I have replaced both sway bar links, the steering stabilizer and even tried the rear end track bar trying to solve this issue. Nothing has worked thus far. I think I will try replacing the front track bar. I have also sent a letter into NHTSA as this is rediculous to be spending this much money to fix an 06 with only 60k miles on it.
Is it still stock? If not then you did it to yourself - sorry to say. As for the sway bar links they will mKe no difference - you can drive without the sway bar without getting DW. A new stabilizer will also only mask the true DW reason.

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So far I have replaced both sway bar links, the steering stabilizer and even tried the rear end track bar trying to solve this issue. Nothing has worked thus far. I think I will try replacing the front track bar. I have also sent a letter into NHTSA as this is rediculous to be spending this much money to fix an 06 with only 60k miles on it.
I see nothing here where you checked your front track bar bushing or the track bar bolt for correct tighness. (torque)

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Old 07-11-2012, 07:52 PM   #633
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Barrie, you had said that when you ran into your death wobble you put on adjustable control arms and it went away. Is that correct?
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:05 AM   #634
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So far I have replaced both sway bar links, the steering stabilizer and even tried the rear end track bar trying to solve this issue. Nothing has worked thus far. I think I will try replacing the front track bar. I have also sent a letter into NHTSA as this is rediculous to be spending this much money to fix an 06 with only 60k miles on it.
I just went through it and had recently posted what I did. The last thing I installed was the adjustable lower control arms, took it to the alignment shop and got the caster set and the death wobble is gone. Bought them from Rough Country. Took alot of trial and error.
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:36 PM   #635
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Death Wobble

New steering dampner, new shocks, new trac bar, no change. The dealer and jeep specialty shop had no clue. Went to my local parts store and they had me try new rotors. Presto no more death wobble. Months of fear while driving and alot of money and 145$ would have fixed it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:03 PM   #636
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I went from some Buckshot 35X12.50X15 on aluminum AR Baja wheels to some 36X13.50X15 Bias ply IROKs on ProComp StreetRock steel wheels and the DW reared it's ugly head on the first trip down the street when I hit a fairly small bump in the road. Read this whole thread pretty much and got my son to crank the Jeep and turn the wheel from side to side and noticed right off the bat the track bar at the axle was not tight like it should be. To make a long story short, tried to tighten it but the bolt was stripped and after hacksawing the bolt, put a new 10MM bolt in and torqued it down....PRESTO! No more DW. I consider myself blessed and am just still sort of holding my breath waiting for it to reappear but so far so good. Just wanted to say thanks to all the input that everyone has added to this thread.
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So saw this huge thread about the death wobble always thought wth is that. Just had a zone 3" put on over the weekend and about 10minutes ago I was going about 35 and hit a descent hole passenger side front and "HOLY HELL" did i experience the DW , scared the hell out of me ... going to put a stabilizer on it and get a alignment ill let you all know
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New steering dampner, new shocks, new trac bar, no change. The dealer and jeep specialty shop had no clue. Went to my local parts store and they had me try new rotors. Presto no more death wobble. Months of fear while driving and alot of money and 145$ would have fixed it.
lol,dont they call that something else!
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:58 PM   #639
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2012 wrangler question .

has the death wobble been fixed in a 2012 jeep wrangler by the factory , considering buying one but now a little scared to do it .

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Old 07-19-2012, 08:32 PM   #640
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has the death wobble been fixed in a 2012 jeep wrangler by the factory , considering buying one but now a little scared to do it .

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the death wobble isnt curable its contained . its when you put a lift on it when it begins ,, out of the factory no worries. As you can see people cured there DW manyyyy ways. GET IT!
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:25 PM   #641
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fixed my death wobble for now... i bought a HD OME dampner for it and it didnt fix the problem.. i took it to get aligned today and that didn't work and i was pissed... so i did some reading and saw some stuff about tire balancing and i just had my tires balanced a couple weeks ago but i remembered i have 3 tires at about 80% tread and 1 at 60% tread and the 60% was in the front so i put it on the back and moved to 80%'s to the front and tightened down the trackbar that was for some reason finger tight and BOOM no more DW (for now).

Id say make sure your tires are balanced
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check your track bar
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Let me add to this discussion... I just bought a 97 TJ (this is my first Jeep and I've always wanted one) So anyway, have the DW's and so far I've swapped the stock track bar bushings with poly, it has a Skyjacker 2.5 lift on it. The lower control arm bushings were done so replaced them, Put a Pro comp steering stabilizer and new Hydro 7000 shocks all the way around. It's not as bad as it was when I first got it, but tonight I hit a bump and it went to shaking also if I'm on a soft left turn and hold the steering wheel at the 11 o'clock for a bit it goes to shaking. Taking it to the alignment shop in the morning and getting the wheels balanced. Hopefully that will get it done, but running out of options. Have I missed anything?! I'm trying to keep from swapping parts in hopes of finding the right magical piece...
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:05 PM   #643
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ball joint, drag link, tie rod, bad steering gear box...... tell the alignment shop to take a very close look at those things.
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A new stabilizer will also only mask the true DW reason.
Yep,put the RE new stabilizer shock on and didnt help much at all! Next im going to try new track bar bushings! Where can i find some harder ones for my stock track bar? Thx
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:55 AM   #646
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Whats the difference between the red and black,just color?
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:55 AM   #647
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If I buy a new 2012 Jeep Sahara 4x4 will I have Death Wobble ?
or has the problem been fixed in the new ones . Want to know before I buy my new jeep .
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #648
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If I buy a new 2012 Jeep Sahara 4x4 will I have Death Wobble ?
or has the problem been fixed in the new ones . Want to know before I buy my new jeep .
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Someone did answer you on the previous page. You will not have death wobble on a new, unmodified Jeep.
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My 2006 is all stoke. Anyone else having DW with a factory setup? I put a new front track bar on it this last go around and it seemed to have helped but I can still feel a little DW. What should I replace next?
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My 2006 is all stoke. Anyone else having DW with a factory setup? I put a new front track bar on it this last go around and it seemed to have helped but I can still feel a little DW. What should I replace next?
Well i was going to do that next! But now hummmmmm..... Mine is 100% stock also with super low miles,i put a new stabilizer shock on and that didnt work. Were in the same boat,maybe one of us will figure it out
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Barrie, you had said that when you ran into your death wobble you put on adjustable control arms and it went away. Is that correct?
Yes, the only way they could get enough caster was with adjustable uppers.
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One thing i think i can rule out is my tires! Today going down a dirt road (kinda washy with a few little rocks)about 10,20,30 mph my front end was all jacked up,shaking dw etc. Not like any of my other 4 jeeps i have had. Tires being out of balance has nothing to do with these low speed problems as well as my on hwy over 50 mph DW in my case. Im still looking for the problem. The jeep is in the air right now and im trying to find something loose. Well so far thats a Dead End!
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Have you did the dry steering test?
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Have you did the dry steering test?
ummmmmm?
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Sweet i will try that!
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I recently (last week) installed a 2" BDS lift, 1.25" JKS BL and 1" MML on my 06 Jeep. Immediately after the install I had it aligned. I experienced DW at about 45-48 mph and it was bad-scary bad. I inspected the front end, did the steering test, and torqued all the bolts but still had the problem. Additionally, I snapped the track bar bolt on the passenger side - awesome. I noticed the mounting hole was not elongated and still circular (a good thing) and my bushing looked good. I also noticed the 10mm bolt was only 9mm at the shank creating some play at the bracket and within the bushing. Initially, I was going to replace it with a 7/16 grade 8 bolt and drill the bracket and bushing sleeve for it to fit. I did some research and opted for a class 12.9 M10 (10mm x 1.5), 70mm bolt it fit the bracket and bushing more snugly and allowed me to torque it down to 60 foot pounds. For shits and giggles I bought a Gabriel steering damper from Auto Zone as the old one was leaking. This seemed to cure about 90% of the problem I attempted to recreate the wobble but only encountered a slight shimmy/ shake. Finally, I had the tires balanced and this has cured my issue. I can feel an ever so slight shake when I attempt to recreate the DW but honestly, it may be that I am now hypersensitive and any little shudder, bump, or shake gets me a little nervous.

Lastly, I want to say thanks to Jerry B, he has been a wealth of information and helped me solve this issue.

Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps. Good luck.
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Maybe mine is a shake ,shimmy!!!Or early dw? I dont have to come to a complete stop.It just shake/shimmys at every pothole/bump then goes away but it not good either!
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I just recently went through a three week horror story with the death wobble. started out major DW at 35, then after replacing the track bar DW was at 55 MPH, replaced the steering dampner and it was more of a bump steer or whatever it is called at 55MPH(felt more like the dampner masking something), then replaced the ball joints...still there at 55...last thing i did was watch how to do the dry steering test, tried it myself and noticed the tie rod end at the pitman arm was wobbly, so i replaced the tie rod ends, minus the one that connects to the passenger hub, and viola... all wobble is gone. went and got it alligned today and ended up buying larger adjustable cam bolts to fix the caster. but now she is finished and finally rockin. going to the mountain to try her out for the first time this weekend!!!

I guess what i am getting at is it takes patience, trial, and error and listening to the people on here that know what they are talking about and taking their advice. Thanks to anyone who helped me out. its amazing that one tiny part can cause so much havoc. thanks again everyone.
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Wow it only took me several days to read this whole post. I have a 4" lift running 31s. DW only happened after the lift in the 50-55 range. I checked everything and it is snug. Had the tires balanced and it went away. I know that is not the fix so I will be going through different components until it goes away completely with no stabilizer bar installed. All I can say is onejsmith is one patient guy. Thanks for the insight.

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