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Old 08-01-2012, 11:43 PM   #661
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I did a dry test and everything looks great! ????Maybe its just my tires/shocks? Going to have them balanced again!

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Old 08-05-2012, 12:46 AM   #662
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Well there was small movement in the track bar,so i bought a moog for 110 bucks,fixed about 75% of the problem. It was a big help,now to figure out the rest!
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:12 PM   #664
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I bought an 05 TJ stock except for 32x11.50 tires and wheel spacers. They were rubbing the fender flares when I turned sharp, so after 2 months I picked up a bb and installed it (2"). I now have the DW. I have had it alligned, wheels ballanced and rotated, new tierod at the pitman arm, new adjustable trackbar, and a new steering stabilizer. It is drivable at this point, but I can still feel it. I tried to take the wheel spacers off, but they aren't spacers they actually change it from a 5 on 4.5 to a 5 on 5. Starting to regret buying a jeep, very expensive yard art at this point.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:11 PM   #665
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I bought an 05 TJ stock except for 32x11.50 tires and wheel spacers. They were rubbing the fender flares when I turned sharp, so after 2 months I picked up a bb and installed it (2"). I now have the DW. I have had it alligned, wheels ballanced and rotated, new tierod at the pitman arm, new adjustable trackbar, and a new steering stabilizer. It is drivable at this point, but I can still feel it. I tried to take the wheel spacers off, but they aren't spacers they actually change it from a 5 on 4.5 to a 5 on 5. Starting to regret buying a jeep, very expensive yard art at this point.
First thing I would suggest would be to loosen the lower and upper control arms, bounce the front-end several times and then torque the control arms to spec. I solved my DW like this as well as another guy's who spent around $5000.00 on trying to fix his DW at a supposed 4x4 specialist.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:40 PM   #666
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I tried what you suggested with the control arms, but no luck. I'm going to try a different set of wheels and tires tomorrow, without the wheel spacers. I hope this fixes it because I can't find anything else that needs replacing under the jeep.
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There's no way I would need to go to an adjustable lower control arm with a BB is there?
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I would think so, I've got a budget boost with nothing adjustable and no death wobble. I got 31-10 50 tires on a 15 inch wheel with 3.65 inch backspacing
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There's no way I would need to go to an adjustable lower control arm with a BB is there?
Nothing that would cause a DW. Can you explain what you are experiencing? Perhaps it is not DW at all.
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I would think so, I've got a budget boost with nothing adjustable and no death wobble. I got 31-10 50 tires on a 15 inch wheel with 3.65 inch backspacing
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"Wouldn't think so"
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:07 PM   #671
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My 1997 just started the death wobble at 145,000mi. I replaced my tires (got a larger size) and that seemed to take care of it... for now. However, the wobble did a number on my front steering & suspension. I've had to replace my sway bar & links, not to mention my ball joints (both), u-joint, wheel bearings and axle stubbies are completely shot and need repaired. =/
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I have a quick question about dw. I bought a 2002 jeep wrangler sport and front tires are cupped. When I hit 45 - 60 mph the front end of my jeep shakes all over the place. This jeep is all stock except 31 10.50 tires. Is this what you all are calling dw or is this caused from the cupped tires. What ever it is where should I start to fix this.
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I have a quick question about dw. I bought a 2002 jeep wrangler sport and front tires are cupped. When I hit 45 - 60 mph the front end of my jeep shakes all over the place. This jeep is all stock except 31 10.50 tires. Is this what you all are calling dw or is this caused from the cupped tires. What ever it is where should I start to fix this.
Search youtube for some videos of death wobble to see if that's what you have.

If that's what you have then you need to check all of the front and components that hold the steering and axle and place

If you have a shimmy it's probably due to the cupped tires so try rotating the tires if it goes away...
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this is great. i've been getting the DW off and on for almost a year and every time i took my Jeep to a shop they'd "fix" a problem, but it would just happen again. now i know what specifically to look for.
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Everything I did made it a little bit better, but it still wouldn't go away completely. I tried a different set of tires on the front and it was gone.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:29 PM   #677
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Sorry, using the iPad, hit the wrong button. Anyway put on some diff tires and wheels and it went away. I had my tires balanced again, 2nd time in two weeks, and that fixed it. I think it was a combination of things, but I'm going to sell my JK pro-comp rims and the adapters and get some TJ rims. Thinking about the DC-2 but I'm not sure how they will look in a 15". Thanks to everyone who took the time to read my posts and give some help.
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They look great, I've got 31's on
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Old 08-12-2012, 08:45 PM   #679
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EVERY time I experienced the wobble, I have gotten under my jeep and have found SOMETHING loose, from steering stabilizer to tie rod. Check allthe basics first before spending some $$$$
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So I need to know what everyone is measuring from when they are talking about caster angle. Name:  Caster.jpg
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Size:  38.5 KB I have read that stock Jeeps have about 7 degrees of positive caster. Is this 7 degrees the actual caster as shown in the picture above or is it from the axle flat spots circled in red?Click image for larger version

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ID:	150307 I measured from the flat spots on my axle and it is between 10 and 11 degrees towards the front of the Jeep (This means the pinion is pointing slightly upward rotating the whole axle forward). I measured a stock Jeep and the axle is between 6 and 7 degrees toward the front of the Jeep. I understand that these measurements are the axle rotation and not true caster angles. Anyway after doing a bit of trigonometry my true caster at this point is about 7 degrees of positive caster while my axle is rotated forward 10-11 degrees. Do I need my true caster at 4 degrees for my 4" lift or do I need the axle rotation at 4 degrees to bring it back into spec?
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You measure caster at the bottom of the knuckles, only flat spot on a stock d30
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:11 AM   #682
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... All that was done was a 2" BB at this point. Still had the stock 215-75-15 tires on. It was enough ...
I was reading a thread about "death wobble", when I came across this one.

What is a 2" BB?
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I was reading a thread about "death wobble", when I came across this one.

What is a 2" BB?
It is a 2" Budget Boost. It is basically a 2" spacer that goes on top of the springs to lift the Jeep a bit.
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Death wobble.

I am at the end of my rope with DW. I have a new adjustable trac bar. Tires are brand new and balanced and aligned. New heavy duty shocks and steering stabilizer. Have replaced both front rotors. Had a dealer look at it and suggest the shocks. Had Jeeps R Us look at it and still have the problem. I am curious if bearings could be a problem, they are the only thing not replaced. It is a 2006 wrangler.
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I had my control arms replaced and that did an amazing job
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I finally fixed my death wobble. To make sure it was fixed I removed the steering stabilizer and drove the same road that produced close to a dozen wobbles. Here is what I did and in this order:

1. Balanced the front tires.
2. Replaced front shocks. (One was totally blown out like ripped in half)
3. Added an adjustable Currie HD track bar.

One of those things fixed it. I will say that there still was a shimmy once the front tires were balanced, but I never got a full blown death wobble. The shocks and adjustable track bar were replaced at pretty much at the same time. Either way there is no death wobble and that is with the steering stabilizer removed. I will of course put on e back on later, but wanted to make sure it was not masking the root cause problem.
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Hey guys, I was wondering if a few of you could read my thread and maybe diagnose my problem. Ive had a couple of guys tell me its death wobble in the early stages but I wanna be sure before I buy a butt load of replacement parts http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/scar...ns-183489.html
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Had just purchased a 03 tj freedom edition the other day and on the way back home, once i got up over 50mph i experienced the DW. Being my first jeep i said to myself ahhh this must be a jeep thing... well i was wrong, took it down to monroe shop and was chatting with owner, he claimed it to be the front stabilizer shock. Well he was right on the money with that, atleast it cured my problem, i see for some of you it didnt work as well and have done other things... Every now and again i get a little wobble but nowhere near as bad before i replaced the stabilizer shock. The wobble i have now is intermittent and happens at almost any speed, must be a jeep thing. I guess ill wait for it to get bad enough to consider it a death wobble then ill fix er up
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Thats a good idea, I just went out and did some hand tests on the steering stabilizer but nothing seems to be loose. A replacement might be in order anyway though, anybody got any recommendations for performance ones?
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Guys, if you are experiencing DW, a new steering stabilizer is not going to fix it. It is not the cause of the DW. You both need to check everything in the front end for wear. Track bar, tie rod ends, control arm bushings, drag links, ball joints. The steering stabilizer is a bandaid. You said your self you still have a wobble.

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