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Old 08-02-2013, 10:46 AM   #841
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Get the alignment and take you for a ride...

For what it's worth I've got 245k miles on original steering components (- 1 tie rod end I I replaced due to a dry rotted boot) and I have never had a twinge of death wobble....

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Old 08-02-2013, 01:08 PM   #842
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My friend said u need to get some kind of brace to fix this
Anyone know what he is talking about?

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Old 08-04-2013, 07:28 PM   #843
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We have 32x11.50 BFG AT WITH THE PUCK LIFT FOR THE LAST 5 years. Never experienced the DW until I put the 3" lift on and drove before getting wheel alignment done. Since alignment has been done, no wobble!
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:32 PM   #844
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i just put new tires on after the lift and dw is GONE!
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:01 PM   #845
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I fixed my wobble by taking all the wheels off and pressure washing all them ( lots of caked on mud) and the undercarrage and wheel wells. Also shed about 15-20 Lbs of mud!

My prob was there was mud caked on the inside of the wheels, made the thing shake to all hell.
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Old 08-17-2013, 05:47 PM   #846
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I took mine to a alignment shop for alignment and ever since I had bad dw at 40mph. I had it back 3 times and they cant find any thing and another shop looked at it and said every things in spec. is there a different alignment spec for a 4in lift? only thing I could think of that I need front adjustable upper control arms
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:15 PM   #847
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don't think i posted my experience with the DW....

got my '99 from a dealer, although it was on the back lot. funny when i did the test drive over some bumpy roads and at 45+ mph i never got the wobble. 3rd day i had it i was going to the store and almost had to change my shorts. had never experienced anything like that before.

changed out the completely bald tires and it got alot better. i still had some pretty good 'wiggle' up front at highway speeds, but not actual DW.

so i changed out the stabilizer with an OME. helped a little, but still there. changed tires. still there. changed front track bar. it got worse. the new trackbar had a bushing that was larger than the oem one, so there was more wiggle for that. ended up drilling out the bushing and changing the bolt to a 5/16 (i think?). wobble was alot better but still there!

on a suggestion from 4wp guy i had the tires rebalanced -again-.

guess what? wobble/shimmy is totally gone. smooth as can be all the way up to 75+ mph
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:33 AM   #848
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steering stabilizer helped my problem
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:11 AM   #849
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steering stabilizer helped my problem
"Helped" but didn't fix it, you can run without a stabilizer...
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:32 AM   #850
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"Masked" your problem.
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:14 AM   #851
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Death wobble

I HAVE MY 06 RUBICON TJL FOR A YEAR NOW. 35K MILES WHEN I BOUGHT IT. AT ABOUT 39K I DEVELOPED DEATH WOBBLE. I REPLACED ALMOST EVERYTHING. ALIGNMENT,AND BALANCED THE TIRES,ADJUSTED THE TRACK BAR. WHEN I REPLACED THE STABILIZER IT WOULD BE FINE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AFTER THE THIRD TIME, I DECIDED TO REPLACE THE TRACK BAR. THE BUSHING LOOKED FINE ON VISUAL INSPECTION,BUT I REMOVED IT THE BUSHING FEL APART IN 5 SMALL PIECES. NEW BAR,AND BUSHING,IT HAS BEEN FINE FOR ABOUT 1500 MILES NOW. I HOPE THIS WILL HELP SOMEONE! P.S. MY HEAD REALLY HURTS FROM BEATING ON A WALL FOR SO MANY MONTHS. LOL.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:27 PM   #852
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Hey guys, you might be able to help me. My dads jeep's tie rod mount on the drag link is ovaled out. do i have to replace the drag link?
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:25 PM   #853
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Question about DW.

2005 LJ automatic 150k when purchased in APR 2013
Stock with no lift.
No issues with the 31in Michelin LTX m/s
but when I had them put a used set (my tires i purchased brand new a few yrs earlier maybe put 15k on'em....tread is perfect) 31in Destination A/T
So, after the new tire mounting, balance and alignment I get DW around 62-66
This is a violent shaking.....I can stay around 60 with no issues but no faster.
Before these tires i could go much faster with no issues.

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Question about DW.

2005 LJ automatic 150k when purchased in APR 2013
Stock with no lift.
No issues with the 31in Michelin LTX m/s
but when I had them put a used set (my tires i purchased brand new a few yrs earlier maybe put 15k on'em....tread is perfect) 31in Destination A/T
So, after the new tire mounting, balance and alignment I get DW around 62-66
This is a violent shaking.....I can stay around 60 with no issues but no faster.
Before these tires i could go much faster with no issues.

Ideas?
Get them balanced down to zero.
Jack up one tire and try to turn it. See if there is any play in your steering components.
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:51 AM   #855
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The wobble on my 2006 LJ Rubicon was really bad, even at 45 mph. I replaced the track bar bushing at the axle end of the bar, and the wobble has been gone ever since. I used the cheaper plastic one instead of the rubber style. If there is a next time, I think I'll spend a few extra bucks and go with the rubber design.
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I have the death wobble the past few weeks getting pretty bad goin to go pick up some trackbar bushing hope that fixes it
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:54 PM   #857
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Death woble is a good name for this.
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Old 10-03-2013, 03:41 PM   #858
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I just bought my TJ at the end of the summer, and thank god I'd read about death wobble before experiencing it because it's a whole lot less scary when you're expecting it. Good info here. I'll share my experience dealing with it.
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As mentioned above I had legit death wobble after picking up my 2006 TJ with about 60k on it. I bought it from my father in law so Iíve driven it sporadically since it was new, and while the suspension has gotten sloppier over the years (it was essentially a ranch truck, driven to town and back with lots of service on dirt rounds around the ranch, regular maintenance, but no suspension repairs or work), I hadnít yet experienced true DW. I would have liked to have been able to take it one step at a time to see what the fix may have been, but there were a bunch of worn suspension parts and so I ended up tackling a whole bunch of issues at once. As of now, Iím DW free, so something I did stopped it from happening, whether a fix or patch remains to be seen I guess. The tires are probably ĺ or more through their life, although not dead yet, I think Iíll replace them before the winter, theyíre Cooper Discoverer S/T. I havenít driven on them enough to have an opinion, leaning towards GY Duratrac as a replacement since Iíve heard they have good winter traction and I like the aggressive look.

Hereís what I did:

1. Alignment (this was much needed as it was way off spec)
2. Balanced tires (apparently they were fine, also confirmed that thereís a reasonable amount of weight/balance on each)
3. Replaced Track bar and bushings with an adjustable set up (in case I want to lift in the future). The bushings were shot on the old one.
4. Replaced front tie rod
5. Replaced steering dampner, went with a beefier one
6. Replaced rear end links
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:02 PM   #860
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New tires. New arms. DW gone for me
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:04 AM   #861
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Replaced track bar and greased everything
Alignment
re-connected sway bar
new steering stabilizer
rotated tires (front right was cupped)
hopefully it is now gone.
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New tires. New arms. DW gone for me
Similar situation for me too.
I went from ruined 30 inch tires to brand new 31x10.5 AT/BFG's last week and my DW has vanished.
In fact she seems more stable than ever at speeds over 55.
When the guy at the shop asked me if I wanted a free alignment I was like, HELL NO DUDE! My DW is gone and I'm not going to do anything to risk it coming back
She is happy, so I am happy!
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:47 PM   #863
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I had the same issue as November 3 Zero. I changed out my tires and got a front end alignment done. No more DW and she runs great at high speeds.
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Man this is a very long thread.. so I'm sure this has been asked before. But it will take me a week to read all the advice in this thread.

I have the infamous death wobble. Read the linked site, pretty much had read all of it on this forum already, wish I had read the sticky earlier... :P

Anyway, I think my issue might be caused by bad wheel bearing on my passenger side. So here's my plan...

Rotate the tires, while I have the tires off replace the wheel bearings on both passenger and driver front.

If the above doesn't take care of the death wobble, then I plan to take it to a shop to get the tires balanced and get an alignment.

So here's my question? I don't want to put the steering stabilizer on because I have death wobble and I don't want to mask it. However, I'm pretty sure it should be put on before getting an alignment.

So what do most do in this situation? Put it on get the alignment, take it back off see if the wobble is gone?
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The stabilizer won't do anything to your alignment. You don't have death wobble if you think your steering stabilizer is going to mask if. You have a wheel shimmy. Death wobble is a VIOLENT shaking of the jeep where you feel like you're going to lose control. When I say violent, I mean, you'll shit your pants. The first time it happened to me I was scared as hell.

I wouldn't bet on bad wheel bearings causing your vibes though. Go get your tires rotated, balanced, an aligned(you can do it yourself you know). If you still have vibes then you've likely got worn steering components.
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The stabilizer won't do anything to your alignment. You don't have death wobble if you think your steering stabilizer is going to mask if. You have a wheel shimmy. Death wobble is a VIOLENT shaking of the jeep where you feel like you're going to lose control. When I say violent, I mean, you'll shit your pants. The first time it happened to me I was scared as hell.

I wouldn't bet on bad wheel bearings causing your vibes though. Go get your tires rotated, balanced, an aligned(you can do it yourself you know). If you still have vibes then you've likely got worn steering components.
I have death wobble there is no doubt about that. I'm simply stating what I've read. I don't believe half the stuff I read on the internet, which is why I'm asking. I'm headed to a shop tomorrow to get my tires balanced and an alignment. My money is on worn steering components though. I'm hoping to get a used set this weekend if the alignment doesn't help.
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Hi,
Has anyone had any luck with Chrysler apying for anyof th daeth wobble fixes?? I don'y understand why they kepp insatlloing parts that ae obviously defetive over time.
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Hi, Has anyone had any luck with Chrysler apying for anyof th daeth wobble fixes?? I don'y understand why they kepp insatlloing parts that ae obviously defetive over time.
All parts are defective over time. Steering component will wear a LOT faster if you don't have everything in perfect shape. If you run big mud tires that aren't balanced correctly, or your alignment is off, they will wear very fast. Same with any other vehicle.
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I just read this entire thread, all 29 pages. I just purchased a 2003 TJ Sport. Haven't driven it other than dealer test drive. I have to say this thread just scared the crap out of me! I am now second guessing my purchase. Hope to hell I don't have this issue.
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I just read this entire thread, all 29 pages. I just purchased a 2003 TJ Sport. Haven't driven it other than dealer test drive. I have to say this thread just scared the crap out of me! I am now second guessing my purchase. Hope to hell I don't have this issue.
You'll be fine, I've got nearly 250k miles on mine on original front suspension and steering components all except one tierod end I just replaced and have never hat a twitch of death wobble... It's not as common of a problem as the Internet makes it seem

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