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Old 04-14-2010, 07:41 PM   #91
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. This really makes me have second thoughts about buying a Jeep.
...Jeeps have other personality issues, too. But they are all part of the FUN! And you will get a lot of encouragement ansd support from the Jeep community.

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Old 04-20-2010, 05:01 PM   #92
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Would just like to say that if you're TJ wobbles, start with the simple stuff first!

Mine wobbled pretty bad around 50-60mph, that is up until about 20 minutes ago. I'd determined it had been neglected long enough so went and had my tires balanced.

Problem solved - silky smooth at highway speeds now

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Old 04-25-2010, 09:53 AM   #93
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death wobble

put OMU steering stab on, felt like new vehicle, 3500 miles later tire rotation, DW back. going to try new bushings in the trackbar next. then new tires (almost due anyway). read article at interco that said to rotate tires front to back only...
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Ok guys and gals, had tires balanced, full brake job with new rotors, and replaced the sway bar bushings on the bumper......Its much better BUT still is happening some.......WTF
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Old 04-25-2010, 05:43 PM   #95
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I forgot to add that I have a STOCK 1997 Wrangler with BF Goodwrench 30X9.50, so I dont see what the problem is. Also I have 147000 miles on it. HELP I also am restoring a 1971 Bronco with 33X12.50 and have had NO problems with it at all at any speed????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:07 PM   #96
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Another Death Wobble

My 2006 unlimited had only 12,000 miles when I bought it 3 months ago, driven by an old lady until then...everything was stock including the tires...no D/W! Last week I added 31 inch tires (slightly used)in good shape. Put the Tires on without balancing and lo and behold I learned of a new term...Death Wobble. Shakes like crazy from time to time...should I start troubleshooting this issue with getting the tires balanced before taking it to the next step?
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:06 PM   #98
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my old nissan pathfinder did the same exact thing. Turns out it was the rear sway bar links.
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:49 PM   #99
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I looked for the DW on my 2003 tj for about 4 months checked everthing about 4 times had the tires rebalanced and rebalanced again. Broke down and bought some new BFG/AT's and now no more DW
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:07 PM   #100
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I had the DW in my 2001 TJ, and let me say thats some pretty shocking stuff at about 60mph when you vehicle starts shaking so bad it almost seems like it is walking off of the road!!! Put on some new tires this afternoon, and the DW is gone!!!
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:39 AM   #101
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I have an 03 TJ Rubicon w/ a 4" lift and 35x12.5s. I get DW here and there as well. Shook on me pretty good one time when I was on the freeway going about 70mph. Wound up breaking the ball joint on the adjustable track bar. Had a hell of a time getting home. For what ever reason, if I rotate my tires and put them in the right order it will stop for a bit. If they are not in the right order............. Hold on!
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Old 05-30-2010, 01:32 PM   #102
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I had this exact problem and got new shocks and found out it was the stabilizer bar in the front
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This was stickied in the YJ forum, but it looks like it contains a lot of good info for TJ's as well
Great Info....

I just bought my 2002 Jeep... (sight unseen - ebay)....
IF I ever by another that way.... I'll have a lot more questions... Figured since I was buying from an Independent JEEP dealer... He wouldn't have crap sitting on his lot or offer up something this bad... boy was I wrong.

Felt wobbly on the way home (in town)....
but steadied out on the highway...
Found out... 1 bent/warped rim, and one of the front sway bar links was broken..
So, I had a fair share of strikes against me...

Today, I've ordered a replacement rim and had both links replaced...
Also found out the tires were pretty, but need of replacing... had a gash on the rear side of the right rear (also the bent rim)...

We bought this for a toy, but also for my wife to use at work. She's a home health nurse in a rural area.. and a Wrangler is a perfect vehicle for her...

Hoping that replacing these things will "fix" our Jeep. If not, then we'll be digging in deeper...
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Old 06-10-2010, 05:11 PM   #104
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Had the same in my 05 Wrangler, I bought awhile back. Had the front end aligned, no help, had the arms, rods, and joints checked for loose or warn, no help, took the tires in for spin balance: turns out the people I bought it from had repaired a flat with a can of what ever the crap is that fixes flats and pumps up your tire. Large lumps of it everywhere in the tire. New tire, all gone. I was lucky.
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Well this is in my newbie thread but I thought I would post here so others can see as well:

Got a new jeep, had DW triggered by a bump around 45-55 mph.

Replaced front track bar, new tires, balanced tires, checked alignment (supposedly fine, but I don't think they were thorough enough, need a Jeep dealer to really do it), put in rear adjustable control arms...even removed the front driveshaft to see if that was bent and was possibly causing an issue..and still DW.

Finally removed the rear track bar...and DW gone. Apparantly whoever did the lift put the wrong size track bar/should have put an adjustable one on, and it was causing the car to dog track and when I hit a bump it would start trying to correct itself, hence the DW.

WIthout the rear bar, it doesn't bind up. I still get a little bit of bump steer, but I can fly over a bump at 65 with not much of a problem at all. Mechanic told me to drive it for a month and see how I liked it. If I wanted to make it even smoother we could a.) install a rear adjustable track bar, b.) put an oversized steering stab on it, or c.) get the alignment checked again and get it shimmed it necessary.

Some of this might not make sense because I am a jeep newb and am going by what he told me.

Regardless I think I got a deal on this jeep cuz whoever had it before was scared off by the DW and couldn't fix it themselves, traded it in and I got it for a pretty good price.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:09 AM   #106
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I might be sounding like an idiot but what exactley is the death wobble... is this the dancing it does on highways?
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I might be sounding like an idiot but what exactley is the death wobble... is this the dancing it does on highways?
It is what it sounds like. You hit a bump or you hit a speed where your front wheels start to wobble right and left until you slow down enough to stop the sequence.
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Old 06-14-2010, 03:34 PM   #108
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It is what it sounds like. You hit a bump or you hit a speed where your front wheels start to wobble right and left until you slow down enough to stop the sequence.
Ohhh. nah i dont have that problem. my TJ just likes to dance around 60 MPH on a windy days
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:29 PM   #109
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Dw

Wow, My first time at the forum and have gotten alot of info to help with my problems(Jeep problems haaa)!!!

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Old 06-26-2010, 01:48 PM   #110
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I had DW in my 2000 wrangler tj, rotated and balanced the tires and it fixed it. it has 4 in lift and 35 tires, if that helps at all.
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I have had the same problem since I bought my Jeep in Nov., 2005. I was told that if everyone with this problem writes to The U.S. Department of Transportation, NHTSA, Washington, D.C. 20590 that if they get enough people they will do a recall on the Death Wobble and would have no other choice but to find the problem anf fix it.

Please write to the NHTSA
Problem with that is the Government will disallow all modifications to any road worthy vehicle. They do stupid things like that! Remember the three wheeler?
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:03 PM   #112
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Got a DW because I of mud stuck in my rims between the outside ledge and the core. Had to stop on the side of the road and clean them. everything was fine afterwards.
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2006 Wrangler X, 30,ooo miles, had problems w/DW. Changed the steering dampner, track bar and had the front aligned. The steering feels solid with no notice of shimmy!
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Over the holiday long weekend,I installed my 2" spacer lift on my '03 TJ.Looks really cool.I know I need to have my front end re-aligned,but figured I could do that this coming Saturday.Well,today,I met the death wobble,and it was SCARY AS HELL!As soon as I got home,I crawled up underneath and checked everything I touched,just to make sure nothing was left loose-no dice.So I ripped the front back apart and removed the spacers.The Jeep has never done this before,and tomorrow it shouldn't exhibit the same DW,since the spacers are out,hopefully!I'm not putting them back in until I have everything lined out to happen all at once-I think I had a near-heart attack,and don't know how I missed messing up my drawers!It literally felt like the front end was falling out from underneath!I hope this never happens again,and this method of trial and error should isolate it to alignment issues,if my speculation is correct!
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Yes change the track bar to put it back in specs with a lift kift then put the high steer kit in it. If it continues check the hubs but you should check them when you have the wheels off the first time. Jack the Jeep up put one hand on top and one on bottom try to shake the tire top to bottom. If it moves replace the hub if no movement its good.
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OK-the test came back positive-removed the front coil spacers,death wobble went away!So that definately pinpoints the problem!I also noticed that there was a vibration,which of course was isolated in the same manner as the front-I removed the coil spring spacers from the rear today,then went for a drive-vibration gone!So now I am back down to stock ride height.My take on this is:I am 47,almost 48 y/o,and new to the Jeep scene.I truly hope some 16-25 y/o kid doesn't do as I did,and suffer some horrible tragic accident.I surely would have if not for my 30+ years of experience driving!There is way too much information missing on the so-called budget boost!Apparently you should drop the transfer case,add adjustable lower control arms,etc.,in order to safely lift your TJ and drive trouble-free!My experience was not good,and I highly recommend that you don't just throw in the coil spacers and ride off into the sunset!I am going to further research this with manufacturers,and make sure all my ducks are in a row before I put those spacers back in!
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OK-the test came back positive-removed the front coil spacers,death wobble went away!So that definately pinpoints the problem!I also noticed that there was a vibration,which of course was isolated in the same manner as the front-I removed the coil spring spacers from the rear today,then went for a drive-vibration gone!So now I am back down to stock ride height.My take on this is:I am 47,almost 48 y/o,and new to the Jeep scene.I truly hope some 16-25 y/o kid doesn't do as I did,and suffer some horrible tragic accident.I surely would have if not for my 30+ years of experience driving!There is way too much information missing on the so-called budget boost!Apparently you should drop the transfer case,add adjustable lower control arms,etc.,in order to safely lift your TJ and drive trouble-free!My experience was not good,and I highly recommend that you don't just throw in the coil spacers and ride off into the sunset!I am going to further research this with manufacturers,and make sure all my ducks are in a row before I put those spacers back in!
You did it wrong. See your other post in the other thread.
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Old 07-10-2010, 07:47 AM   #118
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I have noticed that sometimes when I stop it seems like it's going to come apart. Is that more of a brake problem than the DW?

Thanks in advance
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I might be sounding like an idiot but what exactley is the death wobble... is this the dancing it does on highways?
well....... it is not a shake or shimmy or even a waggle. If you get dw you will never forget it, white knuckle driving at it's finest until you get things undercontrol.

Your dancing could be bad tires or slightly out of balance tires, maybe too much air pressure.
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I had DW at 55-60mph. After going back to the dealer in a week about it, he said he removed the wheel weights to put the hubcaps on.... (nice right?) never-the-less, he had the wheels balanced for me. The DW reduced to some strong vibrations depending on the weight my TJ is carrying. I noticed that it never happens when the doors and top are off.

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