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Old 08-30-2010, 05:40 AM   #31
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Here's a link right to the store where I bought the hinge kit and a pic copied from their site.

Advance Auto Parts: Door Hinge Pin and Bushing Kit by Motormite - Part 38447

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Old 08-30-2010, 10:37 AM   #32
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Well,
Due to several other projects going on and the forecast of rain in a couple days, I went ahead and tried the new pin kit.

Beat the old pins out, which wasn't to difficult, after having sprayed them down with some PB. New pins slid right in and viola, no sag or slop in doors!!

Very doubtful if doors ever come off again though, as it made it feel like my glasses were going to blow off my face.

No, I'm NOT going to go riding around with a strap on my glasses looking like a total nerd!!

Topless is good enough for me.

Thanks for all the help folks!!

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Old 08-30-2010, 02:41 PM   #33
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well those in the pic look like the ones that my Jeep takes too, at the nut end anyway, I have never seen eth top part so I called Dennis up at Advance and asked him, he said that those are what his computer shows for mine too, so I guess that's the ones for yours, I never knew the pins would just go in and out like that, or else I'd have replaced the one that broke off on my years ago. Thanks ,I learned something
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:38 PM   #34
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Hey Wolfen,
Upon further investigation on if these are really the correct items, I'm thinking they're not totally. I believe I still will need a bushing.

Had my brother look over situation and there is a lot of play in door when lifting up on it. I had never checked if they did that before though. The passenger side door has some slop in it also, even though they still have the majority of the old bushing in it. The new pins didn't go in any harder on the passenger side than they did on drivers side either.

I'm trying to get in contact with the guy from this site, Magnitude | Products. I think he said his name is Bryan. I missed his return call earlier today because he called my cell phone even though I said to call my home phone.

I'll post back when I figure out what I'm going to.

Where you from that you called a Dennis at Advanced? There's a Dennis that works at Advanced Auto here in my town!
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i don't like to use them its not like anybody is going to steel your doors
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:53 PM   #36
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i don't like to use them its not like anybody is going to steel your doors

We're WELL past the door hinge nut question now!!
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:55 PM   #37
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@Wolfen
Here's the reply I just got from Brian at that site:

If you are keeping the stock hinges and they have never been replaced with aftermarket, and the diameter of the main shaft of the pins is nominally 3/8" (just a hair under) my bushings should work.
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Your talk about the nylon bushings right? Not the ones in the pic or the door hinge pins.
Cause I'm about to order a set if the work on stock hinges MY bushings have no tops at all on them I have a washer on each hinge in place of the top flange and that price for those bushings in the other pic is a GREAT price.

See. I learn something every time I read and post on here, and never get called stupid cause I don't already know the stuff
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Yes,
I'm talking about the nylon bushings, but check this out. I asked a question on the Advance Auto site about where are the nylon bushings in the kit. Here's my question and their reply.

On 08/30/2010 you asked the following question at Advance Auto Parts

"I JUST asked a question about this part. Ordered them directly from local Advanced Auto store, 4 days ago, and have already picked them up. Originally, according to this site, this part DID fit my Jeep, but as soon as I asked the original question, suddenly it DOESN'T fit my Jeep. "No, this part does not fit your 2001 Jeep Wrangler." Does it fit or not and where is the bushing that is supposed to be included, which IS what I originally ordered?"

MARIE from AAP said:

"It does specify that it doesn't fit the Wrangler. I am sorry for this misprint, we have been having issues on the website and im sorry if it was misleading. The bushing should come with the pin. i went ahead and called the manufacturer and they have specified that the bushing is the nut looking part at the bottom."

WTF!
The nut looking part at the bottom IS a nut!!
I'm wondering if I'm supposed to put those nuts in what I would call upside down? Of course, then I wouldn't be able to get a wrench on it.

I ordered the bushings from that website above, http://www.magnitude-engineering.com/products.html, today.
They said they should be shipped in 2-3 days.
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The bushings in your link are the ones I'm ordering from Magnitude but door pint I'll probably make myself at work, I can get 3/8" round stock and cut it to length then temper it and since I don;t use nuts they will be really really easy for me to make
Bushings however I can make anymore since I retired from the Navy.
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I don't think door hinge pins are easy to pound out. I think they are shrink fitted to the hinge. (Heat up the hinge, cool down the pin and put them together) This makes an incredibly tight press fit. I'm not say it can't be done but it may take a 10 ton press to remove the pins from the existing hinge. This is all spreculation and 2nd hand info from my bud you has tried to remove hinge pins but was unable to.
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I don't think door hinge pins are easy to pound out. I think they are shrink fitted to the hinge. (Heat up the hinge, cool down the pin and put them together) This makes an incredibly tight press fit. I'm not say it can't be done but it may take a 10 ton press to remove the pins from the existing hinge. This is all spreculation and 2nd hand info from my bud you has tried to remove hinge pins but was unable to.
Door pins were a breeze to pound out with a rubber mallet, in my Jeep. Didn't even take 5 minutes.
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The bushings in your link are the ones I'm ordering from Magnitude but door pint I'll probably make myself at work, I can get 3/8" round stock and cut it to length then temper it and since I don;t use nuts they will be really really easy for me to make
Bushings however I can make anymore since I retired from the Navy.
Good luck!!

Here's another update to the issue I'm having with Advanced Auto/Motormite not knowing the difference between a nut and a bushing:

Mike from AAP said:

"The nuts in the picture are what Motormite, the manufacturer, considers the bushings. I contacted them myself just to clarify this. Which piece(s) are you saying that you are missing? The picture shows everything that is supposed to come with this. It includes the pins and nuts, or bushings, as Motormite considers them."
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Another FWIW,
Both Marie and Mike ended up saying this part DOES NOT fit my Jeep after continuous questioning about the bushing and them or Motormite not knowing the freaking difference between a nut and a bushing!!

The Advanced Auto website still says this is the correct part. I didn't order this part online though. I ordered it at the local Advanced store. Somebody along the lines doesn't know what they're talking about or doing?!!

Sheesh!!
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I don't think door hinge pins are easy to pound out. I think they are shrink fitted to the hinge. (Heat up the hinge, cool down the pin and put them together) This makes an incredibly tight press fit. I'm not say it can't be done but it may take a 10 ton press to remove the pins from the existing hinge. This is all spreculation and 2nd hand info from my bud you has tried to remove hinge pins but was unable to.
thats good cause worst case I have to remove the hinge, which means I'll probably have to drill out the hex cap screws so I'll replace them with SS cross points
and I have a press at work that will make 10 tons of force without even moving the gage. but in reality I should be able to remove them with a drift punch and a hammer.
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Good luck!!

Here's another update to the issue I'm having with Advanced Auto/Motormite not knowing the difference between a nut and a bushing:

Mike from AAP said:

"The nuts in the picture are what Motormite, the manufacturer, considers the bushings. I contacted them myself just to clarify this. Which piece(s) are you saying that you are missing? The picture shows everything that is supposed to come with this. It includes the pins and nuts, or bushings, as Motormite considers them."
Thanks I started testing the milling process today, I'l try heat treating them and stress test em after the Hurricane passes and we get Va beach put back together
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Wolfen:
So THAT'S where you're located at?

I asked about that a few posts up:
Where you from that you called a Dennis at Advanced? There's a Dennis that works at Advanced Auto here in my town!

Small world where there is a Dennis that you had talked to same day as me, I think, at same name store!! I realize Dennis is a pretty common name though.

Good luck with that storm too.
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sorry man I didn't see the post where you asked where I was at. Dennis has been at the Advance store I go to since about a year after it opened, I've been going there so long all I have o do is call and say I need something for the Jeep, or the car and he already knows all the specs, he's that good with customers.

North Carolina is gonna get the hurricane way worse than we are, the eye WILL skirt Hatteras and then bounce a little farther East so we will probably get 50 mph winds and a lot of water.
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I'm not quite that familiar with the Dennis here, but my brother is.

Definitely a different Dennins though!!

On a side note, according to the tracker info on those bushings I ordered, they should be here tomorrow!!

It's been raining like a madman here all day. Hopefully quits tomorrow.

We sure have turned this into one heck of a door hinge nut thread!!
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Got those bushings from the place linked to WAY earlier, http://www.magnitude-engineering.com/products.html, in this thread a few days ago.

Finally got around to installing them today.

Worked PERFECTLY!!
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I haven't ordered mine yet, I looked at my rusty old bushings and they are intact, so for now I'll leave em, unless of course I get $40 up and want to actually have a relevant post to make in " what did you do for your Jeep today "
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My bushings were intact too, until I got stupid enough to take the doors off!!

That isn't happening ever again!!

Feels like my glasses are going to blow off my face, to much. Ride around with my finger on my nose, holding them on!!

DOES NOT look cool!!
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Mine have had rust on em since I've had the jeep, that and one of the threaded parts is broken off on one hinge, but I gotta have my doors off when ever possible, along with the top down and the frames out too.
i did find out one thing though, one broken threaded part on a bolt makes it a little easier to line em up when I put them back on
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My bushings were intact too, until I got stupid enough to take the doors off!!

That isn't happening ever again!!

Feels like my glasses are going to blow off my face, to much. Ride around with my finger on my nose, holding them on!!

DOES NOT look cool!!
I think you need new glasses or at least have them adjusted...I wear contacts now, but was wearing glasses while doorless much of the spring. When I switched to contacts, I picked up a pair of sunglasses (whole reason for going back to contacts...LOL) and I still have no issues with them feeling like they're blowing off my face. Occasionally I do feel like I'm gonna blow a contact out of my eye without my sunglasses due to the wind drying them out a bit...but that's it...and that's usually just on super windy days. Not everyone is die hard enough to drive doorless on windy days anyway. lol
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Yeah, I know, that's almost half of what's cool about owning a Jeep, but I can't do contacts. My glasses are quite tight, just FEELS like they're going to blow off. Probably more paranoia about that, than anything else, but if I lost them, I wouldn't be able to drive the Jeep whether I had doors/top off anyway. Freaking blinder than a bat, without them!!

I WILL have the top off on every occasion I can, that's for sure though.
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I busted one of the nuts off pin on the old set, so I know what you mean about easier to line up, even if I never used that opportunity!

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