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Old 12-12-2009, 08:45 AM   #1
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Door hinge nut question

Do I really even need them?
Looking at it, it looks like I don't, and they break too easy for my taste.
I know if I roll over the doors might come off, but if I'm ever in a position where I might roll over the doors will be at home anyway

(full steel doors )

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I never lock my doors and never leave anything inside.

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I've never kept mine on.
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I have 'em off - makes for easy removal when I want to take the doors off. The downside is that it makes the doors that much easier to steal... I have hinge locks on my to-do list.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:10 AM   #6
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I'm not even sure where my nuts are. (Haven't had them since I got married)

I also don't lock my doors or keep anything inside.
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My TJ's hinge pin nuts have been in my hardware box for 13 years. Nope, they're not needed.
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Old 12-12-2009, 04:47 PM   #8
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Thanks guys, I broke one thread set off the first time I tried to remove the nuts, and that's basically why I don't put the other three back on. I've thought about hings locks to keep them from being stolen, but everybody around here wants half doors, so stealing my doors isn't very high on the Jeep parts thief's to do list.
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The first thing I did when I bought the Jeep was remove 'em and toss 'em over my shoulder.
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Old 12-12-2009, 08:14 PM   #10
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Someday I plan to get new hinges, in Black, hopefully I can find a set with QD hinges on them, worst case I could maybe design and build a set, its not like the Jeep has to be pretty to win a beauty contest
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Wow!
One quick search on Altavista (not that Google crap) and here's the EXACT answer to my question!!

I realize this is an older thread, but so what!

I finally got around to taking my doors off for the first time. Have had the Jeep for almost 3 years now. Passenger side came off with just a little wiggling, but the driver side was a total PITA!! Took almost 3 hours and a half can of PB.

First nut I touched broke with next to no effort. After getting the nuts off, I had sat them on the back of my car. 8 hours later and being as the Jeep was wide open now, I moved the car so I could park Jeep in garage. Actually went into town to gas car up, and had forgotten I had the wrench and nuts on the back. When I got back, wrench was still there, but no nuts!!

Guess I won't be putting the nuts back on now. Out of curiosity, what size is the I.D. of those nuts? They're 1/2' O.D., but a regular 1/2' nut doesn't fit on the studs.

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Haven't search for it yet, but how much do those hinge locks run?
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:07 PM   #12
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I believe they're 1/4-20
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:27 PM   #13
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I believe they're 1/4-20
Excuse the ignorance, but what does 1/4-20 mean?

20 threads per inch?

That reply was to fast too!!

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Old 08-27-2010, 09:38 PM   #14
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Someone should make hinge replacements that have a bullet nose on the hinge pin instead of threads.

1/4-20 means 1/4" diameter and 20 threads per inch.
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My TJ never came with door nuts
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Mine are in the glovebox!
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Old 08-28-2010, 07:36 AM   #17
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I did a few quick searched for hinge locks last night just before I got off here.

$55 a piece was the cheapest I found! You've got to be kidding me?
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Just take your doors off, and then you don't need hinge locks

If someone wants to steel your doors, then neither the factory nuts, nor the aftermarket hinge locks are going to keep them from steeling them. It's not like it's a crime of opportunity where the thief can pocket the item and walk off. I can see a quick pop with a set of vise grips or channel locks breaking off the threaded bit that the locks mount to, thus defeating the locks.
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Old 08-28-2010, 12:35 PM   #19
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Next part of question.

I ordered the bushings for door hinges. Driver side bushings were all tore up. Supposedly the pins, nuts and bushings all come in the kit. This kit has NO bushings included. Called the parts store and he has no kind of listing for any bushings.

Do the after market kits NOT need the wire mesh looking bushings anymore?

Haven't taken old pins out yet, so don't know what they look like.

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Old 08-28-2010, 01:16 PM   #20
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Another part of the question.

What's the easiest way to remove, or how do I remove the old pins from door?
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:18 PM   #21
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A rubber mallet and WD40?
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Old 08-28-2010, 03:27 PM   #23
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Thanks for the link. Will keep those in mind.



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"A rubber mallet and WD40? "

Was kind of hoping that WASN'T going to be the suggestion, but figured it would be.

Still hoping for an answer to this question especially:
Do the after market kits NOT need the wire mesh looking bushings anymore?


Going with not worrying about the nuts on pins, although the kit I bought has them and they are brand new.
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Old 08-29-2010, 07:40 AM   #24
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Just saw this thread, http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/door...its-59785.html, with a link to another site showing replacement bushings.
Magnitude | Products.

Looking at the pictures of those bushings, I don't think they'd work, as the pins in kit I bought have grooved notches at top of them that are slightly fatter than rest of pin. Those bushing's in pics look to be the same size all the way up and down.

Has anyone replaced their bushings with after market ones as I have asked?

Really need this part of question answered before I tear stuff up!!

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Old 08-29-2010, 09:19 AM   #25
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I can understand the need for the hing pin bushings, but why nuts? I mean I don't know about where yall are, but around here if they want my doors they bring tools, so nuts don't matter too much to me.

But thanks for the link cork1958, I've been looking for a good quality hing bushing set
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I can understand the need for the hing pin bushings, but why nuts? I mean I don't know about where yall are, but around here if they want my doors they bring tools, so nuts don't matter too much to me.

But thanks for the link cork1958, I've been looking for a good quality hing bushing set
Like I said in one of my earlier postings after seeing that the nuts aren't really needed and it doesn't appear anyone here uses them, I'm not concerned about the nuts anymore, but the pin kits I bought don't have any bushings included and none of the parts stores have any listing for such an item.

I'll take a picture of the pins I bought I bought and post them, then maybe you all will know what I'm talking about.

Back in a few.
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Here's a couple pics of said pins. Sorry about the glare, but it's dark and the flash did that.

If necessary, I'll take a couple pics tomorrow in the daylight.

Can anyone tell me if those top notches/grooves will act as bushings and not leave a bunch of slop in door? That part of pin with the grooved notches IS bigger than the rest of the pin.
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FWIW,
Here's a reply I just got from a link I found some where. I think it was from here, not sure though:

realname: Cork
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transmission: 5 speed manual
description: Door hinge bushings - 4


you cannot change bushings

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Old 08-29-2010, 10:40 PM   #29
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I don't know about those, they look more like the ones I put in my old Chevy than the ones on my Jeep to me. But I've never pounded one out of a Jeep hinge so I wouldn't know, but I thought the pin was part of the hinge half
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I was explaining the situation to my brother in law yesterday. He just bought an older Chevy S10 and had a baggy full of the old pins in his glove box. Those ones had a bushing that slid up onto the pins, with a notched/grooved sleeve, that looks just like the top part of the pins I just bought.

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