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Old 04-05-2012, 08:24 PM   #1
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Fold and tumble front seat?

I'm looking for a security / storage box for my Wrangler. I like the Bestop Underseat Storage Box... just what I need. It says it will not work with a fold and tumble front seat. I guess "fold and tumble" is pretty self explanatory, but to make sure. My seat has a lever on the lower left to adjust the back of the seat vertically. It has a bar under the front part of the seat which allows you to slide backward or forward. There are no other levers and my seat doesn't fold and tumble, so I guess it's not a fold and tumble seat, no? I want to be sure before I order this item because I don't want to pay return shipping.

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does it have a lever on the back of the seat? just beacuse it doesnt tumble doesnt mean it shouldnt. one of mine has a cable broke and wont allow it to tumble. look under your seat and see if there is a lever around the middle closest to the middle of the seat and near the door

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I just installed the Bestop unit in my '03 TJ. It didn't work right out of the box. I used a vise and adjustable wrench to gently alter the mounting tabs. The slightest changed allowed the box to work without binding the seat adjustment hardware. Coincidently, I installed a set of seat risers today. The seat risers were in relation to my recent off road adventures. However, they would also guarantee proper fit of a Bestop unit, in regards to lock boxes.

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Old 04-05-2012, 08:53 PM   #4
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what did that cost you
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what did that cost you
$54.99 through Quadratec.

Bestop 42641-01 - Bestop® Locking Under Seat Storage Box in Textured Black for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:45 PM   #6
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I can't say for sure about your '04 Rubi, but I would be surprised if a Rubicon didn't come with the fold & tumble option. My '01 Sport did. This is what they look like when folded & tumbled.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:48 PM   #7
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My 03 Rubicon only fold tumble on pass side
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And this is the strap that you pull to make it happen.
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My 03 Rubicon only fold tumble on pass side
That's what I thought about mine at first, because the strap on my drivers seat only makes the seat fold forward. Then I found out that each seat has a lever underneath that will make it happen. Reach under & find it & push it down. Under the seat near the middle, not on the door side but close to the console side.
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That's what I thought about mine at first, because the strap on my drivers seat only makes the seat fold forward. Then I found out that each seat has a lever underneath that will make it happen. Reach under & find it & push it down. Under the seat near the middle, not on the door side but close to the console side.
X2 took a little while to find it. But its there, it should be black and righ next to the seat mounting bracket.
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Old 04-06-2012, 05:35 AM   #12
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ya your cable is broke like mine
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Underseat spacers

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I just installed the Bestop unit in my '03 TJ. It didn't work right out of the box. I used a vise and adjustable wrench to gently alter the mounting tabs. The slightest changed allowed the box to work without binding the seat adjustment hardware. Coincidently, I installed a set of seat risers today. The seat risers were in relation to my recent off road adventures. However, they would also guarantee proper fit of a Bestop unit, in regards to lock boxes.

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Old 08-13-2012, 09:46 PM   #14
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I think this changed in 03... or for sure by 04. The strap is no more and was replaced by a Plastic lever. And the Tumble feature is only on the Passengers side. Also I note the loss of one seat pocket back there behind the drivers side too. At least in my Sahara there is only one. And in 02 there was one behind both seats.
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I think this changed in 03... or for sure by 04. The strap is no more and was replaced by a Plastic lever. And the Tumble feature is only on the Passengers side. Also I note the loss of one seat pocket back there behind the drivers side too. At least in my Sahara there is only one. And in 02 there was one behind both seats.

Yes the strap changed with the higher back seat 03-06.

Drivers side fold and tumble is still a talked about subject and what package it came with but some models do have it past 03 on the drivers side.

There are no seat pockes on my 03
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Nice job on the lock box.
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Yes the strap changed with the higher back seat 03-06.

Drivers side fold and tumble is still a talked about subject and what package it came with but some models do have it past 03 on the drivers side.

There are no seat pockes on my 03
Interesting. My 04 Sahara doesn't have it. Nor does it have a pocket on the Drivers side. Does have one pocket on the fold and tumble passengers side.
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Interesting. My 04 Sahara doesn't have it. Nor does it have a pocket on the Drivers side. Does have one pocket on the fold and tumble passengers side.
I have an '03 Sahara with fold and tumble on both seats (plastic lever on side, not strap) and pocket only on drivers side. Mine is right hand drive so that probably makes sense - after '03 only pocket on right front seat.

The fold and tumble on both seats was an option and is listed on your build sheet.
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Look at the mounting bracket setups for both your seats, if they are the same then the driver seat fold and tumbles, if they are different then the driver seat only slides and folds. My 04 X is slide and fold on the driver side. You can can also check to see if you can see the rear mounting bolts, on the fold and tumble seats they have a spring loaded plastic cover on them, on the non F&T seats you can see them plain as day.
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My '05 LJ has both Driver and Passenger F&T seats.
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My '06 has only passenger side F&T. (06, 4.0L, manual, Sport).
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:18 PM   #22
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My 06 x has driver side fold and tumble feature. Black plastic release lever on side of seat back. However it's not working now. Trying to figure out why
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My '06 has only passenger side F&T. (06, 4.0L, manual, Sport).

My '06 has passenger and driver fold and tumble. 4.0L, Auto, SE.

Seems like they just randomly picked Jeeps and said, "yep lets put them on that one."

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