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Old 04-10-2007, 05:39 PM   #1
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Font axle project. need suggestions...

After a couple weeks working on the ford 8.8 that i picked up from a junkyard. I have succesfully installed it in my jeep with the MORE brackets and i am extremely satisfied with the strength that it has to offer. Im steping up to the 38-12.5-15 super swamper tsl. The problem is that i still have the dana 30 in the front. I need to regear in order to push 38s, but regearing the dana 30 to 4.88 is pointless. So i need strong axle that will work with the front. Maybe something that i can pick up from a junkyard. Does anybody know any cars that have a front axle that is compatible for the front of my jeep. I can weld all brackets myself so all i need is something that will line up perfectly with the original axle. thanks

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You can look for Wagoneer D44 axles. Most of them are in the 61.5" range and that puts them pretty much right in line with the width of TJ axles. However I think your 8.8 is 59.5" so if you do get something in the 61-62" range then adding in some spacers on the rear would be worth it.

The only problem is that there are no direct bolt in replacements for the TJ 5x4.5 bolt pattern. I think the waggy's are 6 lug like Chevy's. All of that can be changed with the same spacers in the rear that I mentioned to convert your 8.8 over to the same lug pattern, but you'd have to buy new wheels also.

There is a rare High Pinion (Real, not Rubicon) D44 that was used in the TJ's sold in South America. Good luck finding one, but they are out there.

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thats what i was thinking but i dont know what to do with the 6 lug pattern with the wagoneer axle. A dana 44 will do for the front. I just dont want to buy a tj front 44 for a million bucks. Although it would be nice to have a rubicon front axle with lockers
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thats what i was thinking but i dont know what to do with the 6 lug pattern with the wagoneer axle. A dana 44 will do for the front. I just dont want to buy a tj front 44 for a million bucks. Although it would be nice to have a rubicon front axle with lockers
Unless you add in Chromoly front axles and CTM ujoints I'm going to bet you would blow up a Rubicon 44. They are the same tubes and knuckles that the D30 uses.

You might want to check out just getting some spacers for the rear 8.8 to match the 6 lug pattern of a Waggy axle. Should even out your front to rear stance and change the bolt pattern at the same time.

There's pro's and con's to every scenario. You just have to weigh what's best for you and your budget.
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:59 PM   #5
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isnt a wagoneer axle a dana 44? then y would i blow up a rubicon axle if its the same as the wagoneer axle?
All i need is something stongler than the dana 30, i think a 44 will do. What is a popular swap for the dana 30?
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Remember, im on a tight bugdet. something from a junkyard will be great. A work at a bakery for 7 dollars an hours. I know, its sorry but its what i have to work with. The whole 8.8 conversion cost me exactly 530 dollars. so yeah, im pretty cheap
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dang, i wish i made $7 an hour. my boss is a cheapskate.
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dang, i wish i made $7 an hour. my boss is a cheapskate.
Im about to quick my job for that reason. The jeep is a high maintanance car and expensive. Well, not really, i just have a big imagination, to big for my income. No problems, just upgrades
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isnt a wagoneer axle a dana 44? then y would i blow up a rubicon axle if its the same as the wagoneer axle?
All i need is something stongler than the dana 30, i think a 44 will do. What is a popular swap for the dana 30?
A Wagoneer axle is what you'd call a true Dana 44. The Rubicon 44 does have 30 spline shafts and a D44 ring gear, but it use's the same axle tubes and knuckles as the Dana 30. If you are going to run 38's IMO you'd be better off going with the junkyard axle.
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You might want to check out just getting some spacers for the rear 8.8 to match the 6 lug pattern of a Waggy axle. Should even out your front to rear stance and change the bolt pattern at the same time.

There's pro's and con's to every scenario. You just have to weigh what's best for you and your budget.
could he get new rear shafts that are drilled for the same bolt pattern as whatever front axle he gets?
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could he get new rear shafts that are drilled for the same bolt pattern as whatever front axle he gets?
To the best of my knowledge that would be a custom setup. I know that Alloy drills their shafts for both 5x4.5 and 5x5.5, but a Waggy is a six lug and I don't believe something like that is a standard option.

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