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Old 06-01-2010, 03:54 PM   #1
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Found out what rattling was, need help proceeding

Hey guys, a while back I posted a video from under my jeep to try to find out what was rattling. After reading a bunch of posts, I removed the front drive shaft and it is the culprit, specifically at the double cardan joint at the t-case. So, it needs to be rebuilt or replaced... which should I choose?

heres the deal: all the u-joints on it and even the driveshaft say Spicer on it, so does this mean its aftermarket? I thought spicer was supposed to be really good, but all these joints look like they've been through Katrina. and if it is aftermarket, would it be better just to rebuild? This is the first time i've take a driveshaft off (love poppin cherrys), so I'm not too too familiar with ujoints and what not. Although i have read stu's guide to rebuilding it, and it doesn't look too hard, I just dont know what I should do...

thanks!

tried to get pics of it, but only have my iPhone right now... but the driveshaft says spicer on the shaft and yoke, and the u-joints say spicer on all of the caps
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Old 06-01-2010, 04:00 PM   #2
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They are stock. Just replace them all. To overhaul the driveshaft it will run you around 140 bucks. It will take you about 2-3 hours depending on if you ever done it before.

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Old 06-01-2010, 04:02 PM   #3
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so just the u-joints need replacing? I just called a driveline shop, they said they can't give me an estimate because there are like 11 parts in the CV joint, so they would have to get it apart and see what needs replacing... does that sound right?
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:32 PM   #4
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also, after playing with the driveshaft a little, the inner u joint of the cv joint moves up and down... so if it was standing straight up and down on the differential side yoke, and i push down on the entire cv assembly, the inner u joint literally moves downward...

so if its just a rebuild, which u joints should I get? and since i'm doing it, should I change the cv centering ball while i'm at it? and I know the part numbers are everywhere, but i keep finding conflicting part numbers even within the same brand, so can yall help me out?

its a 2003 sport I6, d44 rear, d30 front, 5spd
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you need 3- 1310 u joints. Then the centering ball kit. I would rebuild the entire shaft. Depending on what you have for tools I change mine like I would on the trail (for if it happens on the trail I am that much faster at it) I use a craftsman 3/4in socket and a hammer along with a pair of needle nose pliers.

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I'd recommend either upgrading to a new shaft or rebuild everything . . . new U-Joints, Center Ball, etc. I ended up upgrading and went with a Tom Wood's Shaft a few months ago as by the time I would have bought a press and parts to rebuild, I wasn't all that far off from the price of a new shaft.
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Old 06-01-2010, 05:45 PM   #7
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you need 3- 1310 u joints. Then the centering ball kit. I would rebuild the entire shaft. Depending on what you have for tools I change mine like I would on the trail (for if it happens on the trail I am that much faster at it) I use a craftsman 3/4in socket and a hammer along with a pair of needle nose pliers.

Ohh- BTW grease everything nice and heavy you will thank me later for it.
is there anything to rebuild under the dust boot? or just what you said - 3 u joints and centering ball kit?
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The dust boot is a joke too. Nobody but the factory puts dust boots on. You just need a centering ball kit and 3 -1310 joints. The centering ball is a little tricky at first to get in correctly.
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Old 06-01-2010, 06:03 PM   #9
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awesome man thanks... what grease would you recommend?
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I use the mobile one synthetic grease. I also use mobile one marine grease also.

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