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Old 08-27-2013, 05:14 PM   #1
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Front axle removal... What am I in for??

I've got a bad u joint in my drivers side front axle. I pretty sure I can handle the job from my research, but I was really hoping for some tips, tricks, and tools to have on hand for my first time. She's a 04' Sport..... D30. Any info, links, or pearls of wisdom would greatly appreciated. Keep in mind she's spent her whole life up here in New England, so there's plenty of corrosion!

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lots of wd-40. Lol . & I believe you're going to need a 36 millimeter socket too.

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I've got a bad u joint in my drivers side front axle. I pretty sure I can handle the job from my research, but I was really hoping for some tips, tricks, and tools to have on hand for my first time. She's a 04' Sport..... D30. Any info, links, or pearls of wisdom would greatly appreciated. Keep in mind she's spent her whole life up here in New England, so there's plenty of corrosion!
Lots of guys who havent torn it apart have trouble getting the unit bearing out of the knuckle. Here is a tip to get that out:

Unit Bearing - 1

And probably one of the most thorough write ups on how to remove the shafts:
http://stu-offroad.com/axle/d30/axle-1.htm

If all you are doing is replacing a U-joint...you do not HAVE to remove the unit bearing.

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lots of wd-40. Lol . & I believe you're going to need a 36 millimeter socket too.
WD40 isn't a very good penetrant. Kroil, or pb blaster tend to work much better. The 36mm socket isn't needed unless you have to remove the unit bearing.
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Apply PB Blaster liberally to the 3 bolts securing the unit bearing flange to the knuckle. Like twice a day for a couple of days. Be sure to get a 12-point socket for these bolts; I think its either 13mm or 1/2".
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Replace the joint with a Spicer 5-760x. Also, be careful of deforming the yoke and/or ears if you're using a press. The hammer and drift/punch method is way better for removal and installation.

If it were me, I would replace both sides...
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Lots of guys who havent torn it apart have trouble getting the unit bearing out of the knuckle. Here is a tip to get that out:

Unit Bearing - 1

And probably one of the most thorough write ups on how to remove the shafts:
http://stu-offroad.com/axle/d30/axle-1.htm

If all you are doing is replacing a U-joint...you do not HAVE to remove the unit bearing.

WD40 isn't a very good penetrant. Kroil, or pb blaster tend to work much better. The 36mm socket isn't needed unless you have to remove the unit bearing.
Thank you my friend! I should have went to Stu right out of the blocks. Have you done axle u joints w/ out removing the unit bearing? If so, was it a PITA??
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I would just remove the bearing for ease of handling...
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Here's a video on how to do it in a Cherokee...same thing.

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Thank you my friend! I should have went to Stu right out of the blocks. Have you done axle u joints w/ out removing the unit bearing? If so, was it a PITA??
Yes, I have not removed the unit bearing to do u-joints. It was a little more awkward to handle, but no big deal IMO.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:52 PM   #10
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I would just remove the bearing for ease of handling...
Kind of what I was feeling. I'm thinking it's going to be more trouble than it's worth to try to go that route. Plus, since I'm on my 6 th u joint replacement out of 7, I'm thinking those ball joints are coming soon. Might as well do it now. Right?
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How many miles on said front end? If you have the money now is great time to replace the hub as well. I have replaced that u joint with and without removing the hub. Both have their advantages. My deciding factor on pulling the hub is how easy I get the hub nut off.
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I was able to do mine in my driveway with a large c clamp
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How many miles on said front end? If you have the money now is great time to replace the hub as well. I have replaced that u joint with and without removing the hub. Both have their advantages. My deciding factor on pulling the hub is how easy I get the hub nut off.
I only have about 78k, but the salt in the winters up here have taken their toll. I'm thinking that hub is not going to come off without some serious " persuasion". The u joint has gotten to the point where I'm afraid it's going to do more damage, like damage the ears on the yokes. I might have to take a day out of work to get that thing out of there.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:50 PM   #14
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I need help! I got that 36mm hub nut off w no problem. The 3 unit bearing hub bolts were stubborn, but they came out too. Now I'm left with the bearing hub that is ABSOLUTELY fused in place. I can't get it to budge at all. Am I missing something??? Please help me before I totally lose it! I just came in because my blood pressure was going through the roof!!!
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Pb blaster and a bfh!!!
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Do this

Unit Bearing - 1

So easy, you'll be pissed...
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Unit Bearing - 1

So easy, you'll be pissed...
HOLY SH*T!!! Thank you so much man!!! Really! That's friggin ingenious. I'm on my way out, so I can't try it tonight. I have to do the "Drive of Shame" w/ the family minivan for work in the morning, but When I get home from work, I'm goin' right at it. I'll let you know how it works out! Again, thanks a ton!
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HOLY SH*T!!! Thank you so much man!!! Really! That's friggin ingenious. I'm on my way out, so I can't try it tonight. I have to do the "Drive of Shame" w/ the family minivan for work in the morning, but When I get home from work, I'm goin' right at it. I'll let you know how it works out! Again, thanks a ton!
I linked that for you in my post

As I knew it would 'probably' be an issue lol.
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I linked that for you in my post

As I knew it would 'probably' be an issue lol.
Yep... I'm a dumb ass. I just went back and realized that I read through the second link you posted, but not the first. I must have gotten sidetracked.
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Whenever I pull the front shafts I vacuum the axle tubes. I use a piece of garden hose connected to a shop vac with an adhesive adapter (duct tape). Just be careful not to push past the seal. I always change the diff fluid shortly after axle installation. I cannot slide the shaft down the tube without touching the sides especially the passenger. Never was good at Operation either.
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I am not kooking forward to this at all...
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I am not kooking forward to this at all...
Its not that bad.



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....Never was good at Operation either.
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Total of 14 bolts to pull front axle......not really hard at all.
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BIG thanks go out to Cons_Table and IslandTJ. I rushed out after work with my freshly purchased Gr. 8 bolt and BAM!!! Unit bearing hub was out within a few minutes....... With ease. I seriously can't thank you guys enough!
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BIG thanks go out to Cons_Table and IslandTJ. I rushed out after work with my freshly purchased Gr. 8 bolt and BAM!!! Unit bearing hub was out within a few minutes....... With ease. I seriously can't thank you guys enough!
Nice, in the past, I have used a ratchet extension or socket in lieu of a bolt .
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BIG thanks go out to Cons_Table and IslandTJ. I rushed out after work with my freshly purchased Gr. 8 bolt and BAM!!! Unit bearing hub was out within a few minutes....... With ease. I seriously can't thank you guys enough!
Gotta thank MrBlaine (Black magic brakes)...hes the genius for showing us jeep guys about it

But you are definitely welcome...you wouldnt believe how common this problem is.

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