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Old 08-04-2008, 10:01 PM   #1
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hey jeepers i just put a bb lift on my 97 sits low in front i have 33s on with no rub thinking of a 1 inch bl any ideas? thanx

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it┤s a known problem that the TJs front sags aftre a while.
the only durable solution is to replace the stock springs with some aftermarket (lift) springs.

last year i had a 2" BB on my only 1 Year old TJ and the front ws 1.75" lower than teh rear.

btw. the BL doesn┤t solve the front sag problem.

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Old 08-05-2008, 12:10 PM   #3
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After adding a winch and an RRC front bumper, I needed to jack up the front due to the extra weight.

I installed a pair JKS adjustable coil adapters....problem fixed.
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Hey guys, I've only owned my 2000 for about 5 months now and I'm learning a ton. The kid that owned it before obviously played with it quite a bit so I'm having to do some work to get it back to where I think it should be.

My question is how do I fix a 1" lean to the passenger's side. Meaning, the whole jeep sits an inch lower on the passenger's side than on the drivers side. It is very noticable and it's annoying the crap outta me. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
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Hey guys, I've only owned my 2000 for about 5 months now and I'm learning a ton. The kid that owned it before obviously played with it quite a bit so I'm having to do some work to get it back to where I think it should be.

My question is how do I fix a 1" lean to the passenger's side. Meaning, the whole jeep sits an inch lower on the passenger's side than on the drivers side. It is very noticable and it's annoying the crap outta me. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
I was told that it could be the coil springs? Time for an upgrade?

I know that "MOA" (WF user) has an ACOS (Adjustable Coil-Over Springs) system and I might go that route since they lift and are adjustable if one side is leaning.
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either that or he had a thing for fat chicks...haha, sorry, couldn't resist
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shit

thanx for running with your own shit start a new thread
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hey jeepers i just put a bb lift on my 97 sits low in front i have 33s on with no rub thinking of a 1 inch bl any ideas? thanx
Does it look like it sits low in the front or have you measured to confirm? "hint=dont measure the fenderwells. measure from the frame behind the control arm mounts///the rear fenderwell does sit higher on the tub."

If you are just running the BB with the 33's then a 1'' or so BL is a good idea. Your fenders wont last if you disco the front offroad with just the bb.

But....it will not level the vehicle. A body lift has no impact on the suspension height, just the body.

It is common for springs to settle over the years. It is possible your front end sets lower. One way to fix it is to install Spring spacers, not the best idea for you since your running a bb already. Another way is adjustable spacers. These will replace you bb and let you adjust the ride height. The easiest and probally cheapest is new coil springs or new lift springs and removing your bb.

If you need anything else let us know.
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Hey guys, I've only owned my 2000 for about 5 months now and I'm learning a ton. The kid that owned it before obviously played with it quite a bit so I'm having to do some work to get it back to where I think it should be.

My question is how do I fix a 1" lean to the passenger's side. Meaning, the whole jeep sits an inch lower on the passenger's side than on the drivers side. It is very noticable and it's annoying the crap outta me. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys

The good ol' TJ ganster lean. Yes it is a common problem with factory springs. They tend to sag over time. New springs are your fix, or a lift with new springs. And no a bb will not fix the problem.
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Has new BDS springs on it and no help. That was the first thing I tried. Maybe going to coilovers would help.

Settle down TBONE, thought my problem fit right in with yours and maybe any responses would fit right in and possibly help you with your fix. No need to get all bent out of shape. But thanks for being an adult about it.

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The front-end sag problem caused by things like a heavy winch can easily be cured by installing a pair of simple 3/4" or 1" polyurethane spring spacers up front.
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And ....when did you put the springs in? BDS has a no questions asked warrenty. Are the springs on the correct side? Driver and passager coils have a slightly different spring rate.
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nice comeback hi speed difrent day new attitude thanx for scolding me mommy
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Distorted- i wasn't aware of the coils being different rates. I'll check on that. I do have a winch on the front and I also have the swing out spare tire carrier on the rear that's mounted to the side that's leaning. I may have to get the spring spacers.

Will the spacers cause a problem while off-road? I'm thinking in there's enough flex, the spacer may come out.
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The spacers go on top and they won't come out unless the springs underneath them fall out first which is not common except on reeeaaaaly SUPER flexy suspensions that are not common on anything but very well built Jeeps.
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The spacers go on top and they won't come out unless the springs underneath them fall out first which is not common except on reeeaaaaly SUPER flexy suspensions that are not common on anything but very well built Jeeps.
Jerry, highspd is having a leaning problem to the passager side. I dont think spacer are going to fix his problem unless he just put's the on one side. Right? If the springs are settled lower on one side, spacers up front wont fix his issue.

I've been confused with the two different issues in this thread, and been going back and reading the two seperately.

TBONE is having a front end lower issue.
And HIGHSPD is having a passager leaning issue.
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Will the spacers cause a problem while off-road? I'm thinking in there's enough flex, the spacer may come out.
and jerry is right as always the spacers wont fall out unless you get SUPER flexy.
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that is why i got pissy with hi- sped but if he wants to share a thread its all good but back to the important not childish stuff i think i am getting a set of acos for the frt and see if that works thanx for all yer help ps havin a time puttin pics on here any help
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the ACOS are a good product, exspensive but good. Just remember once you have them set. get an alignment. And every time you change the hieght of them you will not be in good alignment. And these will completely replace your bb in the front.
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The front-end sag problem caused by things like a heavy winch can easily be cured by installing a pair of simple 3/4" or 1" polyurethane spring spacers up front.
worked for mine.
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hey distorted what changes that i will need an alingment ,never did one for the bb handled just fine
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even with just a bb your suspension geometry changes. Your toe-in/ toe-out is affected.

Over time you will get uneven/choppy tire wear and may end up the dreaded 'death wobble" not to mention having jacked up tires. It's always best to get an alignment done after any suspension upgrade or changes to the suspension conponents.

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I say put airbags upfront! As for posting pictures I use photobucket.com to insert the pictures and have not had any problems! Tell us what you do for your solution. Most of these will work! Just let us know which you decide on.

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