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Old 08-23-2012, 03:17 PM   #1
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GF Performance Chips

Anyone using a GF Performance Chip. Price is right $69.00 but does it work as they say?

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Best chip is Doritos cool ranch and much cheaper.....besides that no other chip will give you performance for any price.

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Old 08-24-2012, 08:31 AM   #3
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Sucked me right in!

You sucked me right in on that!
Hell I even Googled it.
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #4
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Mmm Doritos.. I recomend them
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Best chip is Doritos cool ranch and much cheaper.....besides that no other chip will give you performance for any price.
I disagree. Taco flavored Doritos is where it's at.
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I disagree. Taco flavored Doritos is where it's at.
Or taco bells, Doritos flavored tacos !
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Eating too many chips will not be good for your GF's performance...
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Well, it's always happens; when someone comes out with a good idea, or new product, your gonna get the naysayers, but like we like to say up in the woods, "Don't Knock I Till You Try It!"
Well,I have not only tried it, but I installed it on my '00, 4.0,5sp TJ Sport. I noticed smoother idling right away, and they said it would need approximately 100miles for my computer to read the new chips settings. I also notice more power on takeoffs, and on the highway. I AM Not KIDDING! If it has lessened my gas mileage the amount is negligable, if at all, and it may have even improved. I can't really say for sure on that as yet, as I haven't had it installed that long but will keep track when the "break-in," miles have been reached.
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By federal EPA regulation, street legal chips can only change engine parameters at high RPMs and wide-open-throttle. They have nothing to do with idle rpms and can only do anything at all when they are allowed to by EPA regulation which is only at wide-open-throttle and high RPMs. Their benefits would only be noticed in a racing situation, not how many of us drive our TJs.
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I Don't have a clue as to what the Federal EPA regulations are, nor do I have a clue as to the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regulations are, but I DO KNOW that the G-Force Performance Chip has made noticable improvement in the performance of my Jeep.
Go try one before you critique one!
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Old 08-25-2012, 02:46 PM   #11
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What do you guys think about Sun Chips?
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Sun chips are delicious. Especially the harvest cheddar.
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I shall have to give them a go then.. I've seen friends with them but never asked to try any or even how they are.. Do they increase performance
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:49 PM   #14
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Chips do nothing for a Jeep. Send me ur $70 and you will get just as much improvement as the chip.
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I Don't have a clue as to what the Federal EPA regulations are, nor do I have a clue as to the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regulations are, but I DO KNOW that the G-Force Performance Chip has made noticable improvement in the performance of my Jeep.
Go try one before you critique one!
Not many share your enthusiasm for the G-Force product... https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&t...w=1280&bih=820

Not to mention the G-Force Performance Chip is not actually a chip at all, it is literally nothing more than a ten-cent resistor (literally and really) inside a fancy enclosure that only fools the temperature (IAT) sender into thinking the engine is running at a different temperature.

My personal opinion is that it's the modern day equivilent to snake oil.
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People will buy anything. I just watched the gf install on youtube and the dude had to splice it into his MAF wiring harness lol. If you want to tune your jeep then stop being a cheap ass and buy a tuner. Don't buy a gimmick that splices into a sensor it's not safe...all it does is alter the sensor readings leaning out your a/f ratio.


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Old 08-26-2012, 10:33 AM   #17
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Geez!!! These "Flat Earthers," are really out today:-( I bet they said the same thing to Thomas Edison too!:-( Only it wasn't go eat a Sun Chip, it was go suck on a candle! Well Boys, I hate to burst your bubble, but the fact of the matter is, the G-Force chip has made an improvement in the performance of my Jeep. Srry you guys can't believe it but I bet you don't believe "Jesus Christ, is The Son Of God," either. :-(
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Believe what you want but trust us, that G-Force product you added is nothing more than a cheap resistor that does nothing more than try to fool the IAT into thinking the engine temp is cooler than it is.

I'm surprised you are still ignoring what you have been told it really is, a ten-cent resistor (really, no kidding). I guess you have just really bought into their hype even though you have now been told what it really is. There is no "chip" inside and it has no smarts... it is literally nothing more a cheap resistor. Its history is someone used a resistor to modify the IAT output and they just took that idea and productized it, convincing some people it's a chip with smarts but it's not. Wiring a ten cent resistor from Radio Shack into the IAT wiring would do the exact same thing. Literally, no exaggeration, really.
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By federal EPA regulation, street legal chips can only change engine parameters at high RPMs and wide-open-throttle. They have nothing to do with idle rpms and can only do anything at all when they are allowed to by EPA regulation which is only at wide-open-throttle and high RPMs. Their benefits would only be noticed in a racing situation, not how many of us drive our TJs.
I've heard you say this a number of times, and it goes against what I have heard. Do you have a link to the official documentation? I can say from actual experience that when you put a real tuner on the jeep, it changes a lot more stuff than just high rpms at WOT. My understanding is that ANY tune has to go through CARB approval in Sacramento. This can cost upwards of $50,000 so many companies do not bother to get the approval and sell it as "off road only". I agree 100% that this 'chip' is total BS and that company should be ashamed of itself.
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Geez!!! These "Flat Earthers," are really out today:-( I bet they said the same thing to Thomas Edison too!:-( Only it wasn't go eat a Sun Chip, it was go suck on a candle! Well Boys, I hate to burst your bubble, but the fact of the matter is, the G-Force chip has made an improvement in the performance of my Jeep. Srry you guys can't believe it but I bet you don't believe "Jesus Christ, is The Son Of God," either. :-(
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I've heard you say this a number of times, and it goes against what I have heard. Do you have a link to the official documentation? I can say from actual experience that when you put a real tuner on the jeep, it changes a lot more stuff than just high rpms at WOT. My understanding is that ANY tune has to go through CARB approval in Sacramento. This can cost upwards of $50,000 so many companies do not bother to get the approval and sell it as "off road only". I agree 100% that this 'chip' is total BS and that company should be ashamed of itself.
My information came from Hypertech's product presentations and product materials they gave to me and my company during their regular (primarly sales) presentations. I had to regularly use their product (Hypertech Programmer) to recalibrate the speedometers of Ford & Chevy trucks I installed lifts and larger tires onto. We didn't/couldn't change anything else using the programmer. We asked Hypertech about the EPA and CARB regs because some of our new truck dealers were concerned that what we were doing might affect the truck's ability to pass smog tests or might be violating the EPA's/CARB's regulations. Hypertech said the way they and others get 50 state approval was to only change the programming of engine timing, air/fuel ratios, etc. at high RPMs and WOT. It was actually CARB they had to convince, the EPA just generally accepts what CARB approves since CARB is stricter than the EPA is.
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Geez!!! These "Flat Earthers," are really out today:-( I bet they said the same thing to Thomas Edison too!:-( Only it wasn't go eat a Sun Chip, it was go suck on a candle! Well Boys, I hate to burst your bubble, but the fact of the matter is, the G-Force chip has made an improvement in the performance of my Jeep. Srry you guys can't believe it but I bet you don't believe "Jesus Christ, is The Son Of God," either. :-(
Google IAT resistor mod yea that's what you paid $70 for . Oh it works it's just a cheap, unsafe, half assed ricer mod from a company capitolizing on people's ignorance...that's all. You're so deep in your denial that you'd rather come on here with praises about this $70 turd, possibly luring in fellow jeepers, than to accept you paid $69.90 too much for an unsafe "free mod".
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Ok...Easy guys.
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If someone on here has one, I've got a suggestion for you. Hook up an Air/Fuel Ratio meter to your jeep, test it at different rpms, and post the results. Then, disconnect the "chip" and do it again. I'm curious as to see if it indeed adds more fuel to the mix.
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Sounds like a whole lot of placebo effect.
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G Force Fact

An FYI to my Jeep friends (and chip lovers....)

I just recieved a letter from the Deputy District Attorney of the Orange County District Attorney's Office, Consumer Fraud Unit, regarding G Force. They obtained my address from G Force while serving a search warrant during a law enforcement raid/investigation at their facility. I had returned an un-opened G Force chip for a refund - which never came. They found my refund request and returned product.

Included in the DA correspondence was an in-depth questionnaire which made it abundantly clear that G Force was selling nothing of value and simply taking their customers for a ride. The questions clearly indicated that there is no computer software in the chips, they are generic, are not Dyno tested, and do not perform any of the improvements promised. A raid and confiscation of all computers and documentation by the Orange County Consumer Fraud Unit speaks volumes to me as to the authenticity of the company and their products.

With the help of the DA's office, I received credit for my purchase from my cc company. I hope they put these folks out of business - no telling how many people have lost money; or worse, had their auto's damaged by G
Force's Half-Baked Chips. This was my experience with G-Force, others may vary. As always, buyer beware.

Hope this helps.
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I tried one on my 4 cylinder, 4 speed automatic Toyota Tacoma and did quite a few timed 1/4 mile and 0-60 runs, with and without one of those chips connected. (I had tried waiting 300 miles, etc.) Noting outdoor and engine temperature, tire pressure, fuel, etc., I found no difference in performance (and testing on the same stretch of road) at all...A stopwatch is better than a butt-dyno. I swore it felt "peppier" at first....then I really tested for power/acceleration...It had been in my mind.

And yes, I still needed to manually downshift the automatic to third to maintain 70 MPH on any significant hill.

If it works for you, go for it, but I don't believe in them.
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An FYI to my Jeep friends (and chip lovers....)

I just recieved a letter from the Deputy District Attorney of the Orange County District Attorney's Office, Consumer Fraud Unit, regarding G Force. They obtained my address from G Force while serving a search warrant during a law enforcement raid/investigation at their facility. I had returned an un-opened G Force chip for a refund - which never came. They found my refund request and returned product.

Included in the DA correspondence was an in-depth questionnaire which made it abundantly clear that G Force was selling nothing of value and simply taking their customers for a ride. The questions clearly indicated that there is no computer software in the chips, they are generic, are not Dyno tested, and do not perform any of the improvements promised. A raid and confiscation of all computers and documentation by the Orange County Consumer Fraud Unit speaks volumes to me as to the authenticity of the company and their products.

With the help of the DA's office, I received credit for my purchase from my cc company. I hope they put these folks out of business - no telling how many people have lost money; or worse, had their auto's damaged by G
Force's Half-Baked Chips. This was my experience with G-Force, others may vary. As always, buyer beware.

Hope this helps.
Nice post and good to know
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Thanks for the information! Lots of jokes on this one. Been fun.
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There are things you can legitimately do that can add up to a little, or a lot, of performance boost..."Speed costs money: How fast do you want to go?" is the old saying. Save your $69. Good thing you asked, as I got taken for $60 on one of these. I was pretty sure it wouldn't do anything, but I was desparate for a little more passing power. Dumb me.

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