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Old 03-12-2010, 08:58 AM   #1
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Hand Throttle

Teraflex 4870400 - TeraFlex Hand Throttle Kit for 87-06 Jeep® Wrangler YJ, TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec

I know it's not intended for "cruise control" use on the streets...but would it work as a temporary "redneck cruise control" for highway use?

Reason I ask...I intend to invest in cruise control eventually, but I have a long trip coming up next month that involves 7 1/2 hours of interstate driving one way. Not so bad...except I'm going to be hiking some pretty rough terrain for 3-4 days straight and then I have to make the 7 1/2 hour drive back home. Sure would be nice to give my foot a break when the traffic is flowing well on the interstate.

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Put one our 97 TJ for the slow stuff, works great, and easy install. They warn not to use on hwy, but I say it's up to you. Just remember you got it engauged.

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Just realize that unlike a traditional OEM cruise control, when you step on your brakes - the hand throttle will operate like a toyota and still accelerate.
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Just realize that unlike a traditional OEM cruise control, when you step on your brakes - the hand throttle will operate like a toyota and still accelerate.
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Just realize that unlike a traditional OEM cruise control, when you step on your brakes - the hand throttle will operate like a toyota and still accelerate.
And if this does happen, please have more sense than the average Prius owner and try things like neutral or turning off the engine rather than calling the police and using the car in front of you to slow down. Blows my mind that we give people with so little common sense a license to operate a vehicle . . . the fact that most of these people breed is even worse.
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I thought one would be cool too. I am too cheap to buy the TF one, so I went to the local bike store and got a long cabled 10 speed shifter. Works great. I never use it though. The only time is if I am sitting still winching someone else, so I can keep the alternator working hard.
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Just realize that unlike a traditional OEM cruise control, when you step on your brakes - the hand throttle will operate like a toyota and still accelerate.


While I was working out at the Chrysler lot the other day, somebody pulled up in a brand new Toyota and parked right outside the showroom...and you could hear the salesmen all out there making fun of it.

"Excuse me sir... could you please move your car, or at the very least, back it into the parking space. We don't want to risk it coming through the window."

I spend probably 10-20 hours a week on a John Deere 6420 bush hogging fields during the warmer months...and the "cruise control" on it when running implements is simply a hand throttle so I have no problem operating them...or stopping when I need to (I have a 5 speed...so just like the tractor, if I have to make a quick stop, I just plant the clutch and the brake at the same time...and worry about the throttle after I'm stopped/slowed down enough).

My biggest concern is if the throttle lever will open the throttle wide enough to hold it at the RPMs used at highway cruising speeds ~2200 RPMs.

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And if this does happen, please have more sense than the average Prius owner and try things like neutral or turning off the engine rather than calling the police and using the car in front of you to slow down. Blows my mind that we give people with so little common sense a license to operate a vehicle . . . the fact that most of these people breed is even worse.
No kidding...I was just b*tching about that to my roommate the other night when it was on the news about another vehicle being unable to stop and slamming into traffic because their gas pedal was jammed. I can understand wrecking in town in traffic... if you gas pedal sticks, you are going to have a moment of panic overcome you before you think rationally...and most people in town wait until the last second to start braking. But if you're on the highway and you notice your vehicle isn't slowing down when you hit the brakes...uh duh...panic, then as you mentioned...don't call the cops. TURN THE VEHICLE OFF...or put it in neutral! It's not rocket science...
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My biggest concern is if the throttle lever will open the throttle wide enough to hold it at the RPMs used at highway cruising speeds ~2200 RPMs.
I've tried it once and mine does .

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I've tried it once and mine does .

Is that a homemade setup? All the ones I've seen mount to shifter on the 5spds...where'd you get that one at? I like it better. lol
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I'm interested in a hand throttle also but have a question. How and/or will they work with an automatic? I know that it says they are for use with a manual. Is there any advantage to putting one on a automatic?
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The article I read said that in the Prius "runaway" incident the driver did shut off the ignition switch, it didn't shut off (the system has a shut-down procedure - has to be at idle.
Then he tried shifting into neutral, no good either - the lever moved, it moved but it didn't change anything.
Then he tried reverse and park - same.
Standing on the brake pedal helped a little, but not near enough.

The trouble is the gas pedal and the shifter are all electronics - gone are the days of mechanical linkages.
The throttle is "fly by wire", shifter is just a switch.

The Prius is a combination gas engine and electric motor - all controlled by electronics.
Try something - open the throttle all the way on your vehicle, accelerate to about 50, then while still holding the throttle all the way open, try to stop it with the brakes.
Before you get it slowed down much the brakes will fade out - then you are in trouble like he was.

At least he didn't jump out at 90 MPH like a woman did last year when her throttle stuck.

I was going to buy a Prius recently - but when I found out it's "fly by wire" I decided against it. Too much mumbo jumbo. Lots of new cars are starting to use that system - we'll be hearing more and more about it's failures.
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I'm going to be hiking some pretty rough terrain for 3-4 days straight
Off topic, but where are you hiking?
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Off topic, but where are you hiking?
We hike in Shawnee National Forest... LaRue-Pine Hills area in southern IL. I run a reptile hobbyist website and a group of us meet up every year to camp and hike that area looking for reptiles (primarily venomous snakes), so we walk up and down the road numerous times which is roughly 2 miles each way, plus we're tromping through the woods and up and along some pretty steep bluffs. The hiking itself isn't too bad...but walking up and down those bluffs and walking along some of the steep inclines is foot murder.
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Okay. thought you might be headed south to the A.T.
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Is that a homemade setup? All the ones I've seen mount to shifter on the 5spds...where'd you get that one at? I like it better. lol
Yes, I purchased all the parts from a bike shop for less than $15 IIRC.


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I'm interested in a hand throttle also but have a question. How and/or will they work with an automatic? I know that it says they are for use with a manual. Is there any advantage to putting one on a automatic?
I have an automatic and I use my hand throttle often in rocky, jerky trails where the Jeep is subject to constant jarring. Before I installed my hand throttle, my foot would inadvertently press the accelerator while on uneven terrain - often resulting in a sudden unexpected surge forward. The hand throttle allows for fine control adjustments compared to the foot pedal.

I used my hand throttle during this rocky uphill climb:



Additionally, with my throttle placement - I can easily reach in and adjust my RPMs while winching or while using my 12volt air compressor while airing up.
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Thanks IslandTJ. Could you tell me the parts needed, and any other info I might need to install, like the mounting you used, how it's hooked up at the TB, and how the cable was run. Feel free to PM me. Very much appreciated.
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I can see how to use it offroad but what I did instead is adjust my pedals so I can side step them like in my road race car. I can hold the clutch with the left foot and heel toe the brake and gas. Takes a little learning but I like it better then the hand throttle to me. I had it on the truck for about a day and it just screwed me up to bad lol. For turning it into a cruise control is a great Idea I might hook it back up and use it for that.

To the toyota issue, you can't turn them to the on position while the car is moving. Gramps has a 2009 camry. Tried it-- with the push start the car keeps on trucking along.
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Thanks IslandTJ. Could you tell me the parts needed, and any other info I might need to install, like the mounting you used, how it's hooked up at the TB, and how the cable was run. Feel free to PM me. Very much appreciated.
While piecing my throttle together, I used the following 2 write-ups for direction:

Jeep Rubicon Express Hand Throttle Installation

TJ Hand Throttle

You should be able to get a general idea of what's required. Both sites are very helpful for other Jeep related projects .
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Rubicon Express has a similar set-up and it's only $29.99 at 4Wheel Parts. I've run this one for a couple of years. Nice on trails from time to time. Set mine on the gearshift so I can run the gears and throttle with one hand.
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IslandTJ, thanks for the info. What is the mounting bracket that you used in the pics?
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IslandTJ, thanks for the info. What is the mounting bracket that you used in the pics?
LOL, it's a drawer handle from Home Depot.
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LOL, it's a drawer handle from Home Depot.
I got the idea from this write up.

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Cool. Again, thanks IslandTJ
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In the process of buying the Teraflex one from 4wd.com...I placed my order using my $50 gift card from spending so much last time, but their form has a glitch or something and the order didn't seem to go through...so I emailed em and am waiting til tomorrow to hear back from em.

Sure beats blowing $300 on a cruise control system...lol. I rarely ever use cruise control...bout the only time I do is when I'm on the interstate for hours at a time.
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My ford ranger was the first manual. I wanted to go offroading but wasn't good with a clutch off road. Guy in my 4x4 group toldme about what he did.

Went to the local bike shop and bought a brake lever and about 4ft of brake cable. Used the throttle body mounts off my go ped and mounted everything to my throttle by of the truck. Worked like a dream for me.





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you want a bike shifter not a brake lever. You wanna move the lever to one or 2 clicks so it stays at a certain idle range. All your doing is moving the bump from your foot to the bump in your hand.. Plus you gotta go up a hill squeezing that thing. With a shifter you click to your setting forget it, and keep your hands on the wheel and your feet on the clutch and the brake. Also a shifter is good if you have OBA to keep your compressor idled higher.
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i have one in my TJ, but i always for get to use it for the OBA, lol.

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