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Old 11-23-2013, 11:51 AM   #1
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Headlight Upgrades ?

I want to upgrade my Headlights or Need ! To upgrade them. Massive storm this weekend and realized just how poor the OE lights are at night in rain.
What have most of you gone to ? I don't want to spend 600 bucks on them. I was just looking at Truck Lite's site and while it's very convincing, and looks like LED's are the way to go, they are almost 300 bucks EACH !
Rocks are FREE and do damage regardless of price so, get what I'm saying ?
Some input and suggestions would be greatly appreciated !

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I want to upgrade my Headlights or Need ! To upgrade them. Massive storm this weekend and realized just how poor the OE lights are at night in rain.
What have most of you gone to ? I don't want to spend 600 bucks on them. I was just looking at Truck Lite's site and while it's very convincing, and looks like LED's are the way to go, they are almost 300 bucks EACH !
Rocks are FREE and do damage regardless of price so, get what I'm saying ?
Some input and suggestions would be greatly appreciated !
No, look in the thread below, you can find a pair of truck lites for around 370.

They are only expensive if you don't do a search and buy from qtec

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Old 11-23-2013, 01:55 PM   #3
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Cool thanks, but I would like to hear of some other options out there.
There must be other Good Quality alternatives to OE. I have a ton of other things to spend $ on as well.
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Heard hella e-codes being talked about a lot. Now that I finally have a couple bucks to my name I think that's the route I'm gonna go, just gotta do a bit of research on em.; Think they 55 at qtec
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I just installed a set of Helle e-codes in my LJ and could not be happier. I used to have cibie e-codes in my Sierra Classic years ago, these were very nice lights, and I feel the Hellas are just as good. The light dispersion makes for nite driving thats easier on the eyes. I paid 78 dollars with free shipping from QUADRATEC, they were on back order for a couple days and I had them within a week or so. Right now Im just using the stock 55 watt bulbs but may upgrade my harness and run a bit more wattage. Mitch.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:40 PM   #6
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Lots of ways to go, search the forum a bit for specifics. Pretty much any upgrade is better than the stock bulbs.

LED's. Trucklite's are not the only game in town, look around.

E-code housing, with H4 halogen bulbs. LED or HID is brighter, but you can get these plenty bright enough for on road use. Only problem is halogen bulbs are inherently flawed, filaments WILL get thinner over time and WILL eventually break when you hit a bad enough bump one day.

E-code housings with HID retrofit bulbs. Usually not legal anyway, but they are plenty bright. you need actual HID housings for proper light dispersion of an LED bulb. Still impressively bright, but you will never get full potential out of an HID bulb with a halogen housing. They just scatter the light all weird.

Do HID lights the right way, arguably brighter than LED's. These use projectors and such to disperse the light properly. Crazy bright.


If you do anything with HID's check your local and state laws first. You just can't do it in some places unless they came from the manufacturer with HID's.

If i had it to do again, E-Code housings but just normal H4 bulbs. The expensive ones are gonna burn out on you just as fast, and it will still be impressively brighter than those crap sealed beams jeep put on there.
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Old 11-23-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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What about kc h4 housings
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Old 11-23-2013, 07:11 PM   #8
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I have been looking at the KC's as well. Asked on here yesterday and quite a few responses from people who said they are happy with theirs.
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:23 PM   #9
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I just installed Hella Vision Plus HB2, DOT and direct plug-in replacement. Good improvement over OE headlights $75 for the pair.
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I had cibie housing with h4 silverstar bulbs for 2 years. Right at 150 total.

I now have the truck lite led kit. Got it for just under 400. Why? Because I am a light nerd and lighting designer. The led lights also draw less power which is cool!
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What about kc h4 housings
IIRC they have a plastic lens and it turns yellow over time. plus they are nothing special for the price tag, a good set of bosch or hella housings are very similar if not better and are about half the cost

i went with bosch e-code housings, 75/60w h4 bulbs, and an upgraded harness for right around $100
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:07 AM   #12
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I see a light

I went with the JW Speaker 7'' Round LED Dual Beam Headlights, Anzo LED Taillights (Smoke) and Rugged Ridge Duallies and RR Foglight Upgrades and backup lights, oh and HIDs by Warn. Looks like a fricken UFO when you fire everything up and forget about it on a budget, it was stupid expensive. However, the light pattern on the JWs are awesome, the Anzo's are really cool looking and the RR squares throw a tone off light off.

Oh and my pat answer for why I need that much light….hunting jackalope!
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:38 PM   #13
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Anyone running the Delta Quad Bar Headlights ?
So far it's a toss up between the Hella's the KC's and the Delta's.
I would really like the Truk-Lite's but just can't pull the trigger on 3 to 4 hundred dollar lights.
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Is it just me or do you see Jesus in the Hella lights ? Lol


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Is it just me or do you see Jesus in the Hella lights ? Lol
I see Mary and baby Jesus!
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I bought the Trucklites for around $360 for the pair! The difference is unreal! NO regrets...would have liked JW's but could justify $700.
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I bought the Trucklites for around $360 for the pair! The difference is unreal! NO regrets...would have liked JW's but could justify $700.
Where did you get them ? That's about the lowest $ I've heard for them. Are they really as good as they say ? From what I've seen they look awesome.
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Did you have any problem with the fit ? I have heard they are a really tight fit with the stock bezels.
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I see Mary and baby Jesus!
Seriously, you don't see the face ? It might be Chris Cornell from Soundgarden instead of Jesus , but it's a face. Haha
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I bought the Trucklites for around $360 for the pair! The difference is unreal! NO regrets...would have liked JW's but could justify $700.


X2. On where at that price.
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I got the Hella "e code" or European lens with 55/65 H4 bulbs at my local parts store for $40 each. I can upgrade the harness and go with higher wattage H4's later if I want. I'm fine with the light they emit for road use and nobody is checking headlights for legality. Get in a wreck with illegal equipment, that may be a different story but it doubt it on headlights around here.
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I bought the Trucklites for around $360 for the pair! The difference is unreal! NO regrets...would have liked JW's but could justify $700.
x2.

Stock headlights was the first thing to go when I started modding. Absolutely love my TL's and like Sinister6 says, justifying J-Dubs in price comparison wasn't worth it.
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X2. On where at that price.
Drivetrain America $358
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Hello. New 2013 Jeep Wrangler looking for some advice. A (small) rotted tree branch fell while I was driving and hit my front passenger headlight. There is no damage and the headlight still works. However, the headlight is now pointing very high. If you push on the driver's side lamp it doesn't go anywhere. If you push on the passenger side lamp it moves in at the top about a half inch but reverts back to it's original position when you let it go. However the aiming is off and it isn't as solid as the driver's side lamp. Any ideas? Thank you.
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Pull the ring off should be adjusting screws inside. Unless you bucket is cracked. Or just enjoy the trees being all lite up at night.
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It moves though. Is there a spring or connection (other than an adjustment screw) that may have come loose ?
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I am wanting to upgrade to all LED lights. I am going with Truck Lites for my headlights, but what about the tail lights?

How hard or easy is it to replace the tail lights on a 2002 Wrangler?

Thanks!
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Drivetrain America $358
Are these the correct ones?http://www.drivetrainamerica.com/p-1...-cj-tj-jk.aspx
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I am wanting to upgrade to all LED lights. I am going with Truck Lites for my headlights, but what about the tail lights?

How hard or easy is it to replace the tail lights on a 2002 Wrangler?

Thanks!
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