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Old 01-25-2010, 05:26 PM   #1
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HELP!!! 2004 Wrangler Rear Seat Removal

Hi! I have a 2004 Wrangler Rubicon. I am trying to remove the the bolts that hold down the rear seat. It looks like it uses T50 torx wrench. I have painfully tried to unscrew them with no avail. Is there a nut under the Jeep that needs to be loosened first because I can't BUDGE the dang bolts. I tried WD40 but that is not working either. Any easy suggestions on how to remove them? Thanks!!!

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First, put your purse down.

Second, you don't need to remove any bolts to remove the rear seat. Fold and tumble, push to the side, then remove the seat.

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Haha...No. What I am saying is that I want to remove the bolts and the frame that hold the rear seat. I removed the seat belt bolts with no problem. Just having trouble with these. Thanks
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Second, you don't need to remove any bolts to remove the rear seat. Fold and tumble, push to the side, then remove the seat.
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Is this the same for the 98's ?
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Mr. Clifford,
Is this the same for the 98's ?
Yes. There is a lever holding the seat back into a bracket. Release the lever and the seat folds down then tumbles forward. There are 2 brackets on each side of the tub holding the seat in place. You have to go one way or the other to get the seat out.

I think on newer TJs the handle is on the seat. Once you fold it forward there is a bar going across the floor that you yank on to get the seat free from the bracket.
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Mr Clifford, Any advice on how to remove the bolts from the bracket that hold down the rear seat? Thanks
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You're just gonna have to put some man hands on it.
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Yes. There is a lever holding the seat back into a bracket. Release the lever and the seat folds down then tumbles forward. There are 2 brackets on each side of the tub holding the seat in place. You have to go one way or the other to get the seat out.

I think on newer TJs the handle is on the seat. Once you fold it forward there is a bar going across the floor that you yank on to get the seat free from the bracket.
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I'm guessing it's held on with red or blue Locktite to prevent the bolts from loosening over time and putting passengers at risk in the event of an accident... might require heat or extreme force.
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Thank you Mr. Clifford and s3nt3nc3d for your help
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I pulled them out of my 06 a few months ago . . . get the right size torx and a breaker bar, and put some muscle into it . . . they should pop loose, or the head will rip off . . . either way . . . the bracket will come off All of mine came out but I did need to use a breaker bar on a few of them.
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Does anyone know the correct size torx to use? Thanks
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They get rusted in there (from the bottom) and can be very difficult. Put some elbow grease, and as previously mentioned, a breaker/persueder on the end of the ratchet if necessary.

Also if you dont have carpet hitting it with pb blaster or the like a day or two out wouldnt hurt.
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:31 PM   #14
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A 4ft steel pipe can be really useful, the nuts are normally welded to the body I think, If your unlucky like me however, they rust off and you have to get a wrench on the bottom too, then you can cut them off if you get them loose enough.
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I took the brackets etc. out of my 03 Rubicon and there is NO nuts or anything on the bottom. As stated above just use the right size torx and a breaker bar with some muscle behind it.
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03 RUBI, what size torx did you use on yours? Also, where could I purchase a breaker bar? Thanks
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03 RUBI, what size torx did you use on yours? Also, where could I purchase a breaker bar? Thanks
Sears, lowes, homedepot?
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When I'm at work, I've got a few different lengths of galvanized pipe that I use as breaker bars...not sure what diameter it is 1 or 1 1/2 inches I'd guess. Big enough to slip it over the handle of the ratchet you're using without it being so loose that you have a ton of play before the ratchet starts to move.
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Right now I am using a hand held T50 torx on the bolts, which is hard as HECK and will not budge. I did manage to get the seat belt bolts off though (YAY!!). I guess I am going to need a ratchet torx and a breaker bar. Anyone know of a place on the internet that sells the Torx ratchet set. I've look and all I see is the "screw driver" kind and the "hand held" kind. Thanks.
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Right now I am using a hand held T50 torx on the bolts, which is hard as HECK and will not budge. I did manage to get the seat belt bolts off though (YAY!!). I guess I am going to need a ratchet torx and a breaker bar. Anyone know of a place on the internet that sells the Torx ratchet set. I've look and all I see is the "screw driver" kind and the "hand held" kind. Thanks.
Not cheap...you can find em for cheaper if you google it.

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buy a 40 dollar dremel and cut it. Or buy two blades for your jigsaw and cut it out. Thats what I would do if I was having that much trouble.
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buy a 40 dollar dremel and cut it. Or buy two blades for your jigsaw and cut it out. Thats what I would do if I was having that much trouble.
You would cut holes in your floor because you couldn't get a bolt out?
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You would cut holes in your floor because you couldn't get a bolt out?
Well it would [technically] solve his problem...
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Check out Harbor Freight . . . you'll be able to pick up a set of Torx that will fix onto your ratchet or breaker bar for under 20 bucks. You can get a breaker bar from them too that matches the size of the Torx you get. Harbor Freight is not Craftsman quality by any stretch, but they should work just fine for the average weekend grease monkey . . . and at a fraction of the cost.
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i bought a set of torx from autozone...def not the best torx around but they got the job done. they were 8 dollars and came with the screwdriver handle, but i believe they also fit my ratchet, if not i use an adapter that fits them
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Be VERY wary of Harbor Freight tools. Except for the brand name ones, most are made in China and therefore are of poor quality. If you're going to buy tools invest in high quality and you won't be sorry. Also rachets don't fare well if you use a breaker pipe on them too often. Use a breaker bar with a pipe on it if necessary.
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Yup it's mostly chinese crap . . . which at the end of the day works just fine for what most of us are doing. If you are a mechanic and using your tools for a living, by all means buy quality, but if you are just a weekend mechanic like me, Harbor Frieght is awesome. Take my little grinder that I bought at HF on sale for 10 dollars a couple of years ago as an example . . . I've used it on a bunch of things and it's worked just as well as the Dewalt that my buddy has, sure his is probably better and will probably hold up better and outlast mine, but I can buy 10 of the HF ones for what one Dewalt will run. And their return policy or lack there of is pretty sweet . . . bring something in and usually if it even looks close to what they sell they'll let you exchange it...they don't care!
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Those craftsman set are really nice, don't try great neck from autozone, trash.
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Bought a set of Torx bits at Walmart for $20. It has about 8-10 different sizes (including the T55) - every one I have needed so far on the jeep and no issues with the quality.
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Lowes sells the torx set with about 10 pcs. Also just get a 3/8 or 1/2 drive ratchet and they will come out. I have a 2001 and had to take the seat out to replace the cable that allows the seat to fold forward and tumble.

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