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Old 03-02-2010, 06:33 PM   #1
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help broken and dont know what it is

i bought a 97 jeep wrangler that already had a lift and apparently some aftermarket steering on it. Well there is a bar that is broken and i have no idea what it is or where to get it from so any help please point me in the right direction. If you can email the links or any help to racecort99@yahoo.com

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Old 03-02-2010, 07:02 PM   #2
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Looks like a broken track bar. Since the steering stablizer is a Trailmaster and they sell a lift kit that includes a stablizer you may want to contact their tech support and see if they can help you with it.

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That is not a stock part. It does look like some kind of stabilizer bar though.
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:58 PM   #4
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Near as I can tell, the part that is broken is a trackbar brace that someone added, not the actual track bar which is below it. The trackbar itself is bolted onto the other (bottom) side of that bracket that is welded to the frame.

It also looks like in general that the previous owner really kludged up the steering. For example, those dual stabilizers are actually a bad thing to have. They make the steering system harder against them which can cause the power steering pump to overheat on a hot day on a twisty offroad trail. Dual stabilzers are seldom, if ever, needed on a Wrangler TJ. Most people that install them do so solely because they look cool & get talked into them by a commission-hungry salesman.

You also have a dropped Pitman arm which because there is no corresponding drop at the upper end of the track bar, should not be there. An undropped (OE factory) Pitman arm should be there instead. Replace that dropped Pitman arm with the factory OE Pitman arm.

Due to the kludged up steering system and especially the dropped Pitman arm, I would not be surprised if your Jeep has bump steer. Bump steer is when the steering is forced left/right as you drive over bumps or dips in the road.

I'd remove the trackbar, track bar brace, drag link, dual stabilizers, dropped Pitman arm, tie rod, & start over. I know that sounds harsh, especially since this was your first post, but the previous owner really didn't know what he was doing when it came to properly setting up a front end & steering system.

And actually, none of that is difficult... it sounds daunting but I could replace an entire steering system and install a new track bar in an hour to 90 minutes from start to finish. And I'm no mechanic.
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jerry for the win, he hit the nail on the head. start over and follow his instructions.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:05 PM   #6
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thanks for help so far but can someone tell me what to get i have a low budget but want something reliable
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What is your budget? Your steering is pretty jacked, I wouldn't try to scrimp too much. Is your Jeep for street use or do you offroad it on any trails more challenging than a dirt fire road?
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it is for street and i do do some off roading mudding and some hill climbing
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So does that mean I can give you a shopping list & cost is not an issue?
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ya give me a shopping list
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1) JKS front adjustable length trackbar p/n OGS126
JKS Manufacturing: Trackbar Components
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1) Currie front adjustable length trackbar p/n CE-9120TJS
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts
(whichever is cheaper, both are very similar to each other)

2) Currie heavy duty steering system p/n CE9701 (tie rod and drag link)
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts

3) Currie single steering stabilizer p/n CE9170
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts
(or equivilent from Rancho, Skyjacker, Monroe, etc.)

4) OE (OE = original equipment from the factory) Pitman arm for a TJ. Many 4x4 shops will have used OE Pitman arms they pulled off TJs laying around or can be found free or cheap in the For Sale areas of various Jeep forums.

There are cheaper alternatives but especially where the front-end and steering is concerned, getting what you pay for is a very real thing here.

Going with this configuration will set your Jeep up for life and none of it is hard to install. Too bad you don't live closer to me, it could be installed in a morning complete with setting your toe-in and getting the steering wheel recentered.
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1) JKS front adjustable length trackbar p/n OGS126
JKS Manufacturing: Trackbar Components
(or)
1) Currie front adjustable length trackbar p/n CE-9120TJS
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts
(whichever is cheaper, both are very similar to each other)

2) Currie heavy duty steering system p/n CE9701 (tie rod and drag link)
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts

3) Currie single steering stabilizer p/n CE9170
Currie Enterprises CJ Axle Parts
(or equivilent from Rancho, Skyjacker, Monroe, etc.)

4) OE (OE = original equipment from the factory) Pitman arm for a TJ. Many 4x4 shops will have used OE Pitman arms they pulled off TJs laying around or can be found free or cheap in the For Sale areas of various Jeep forums.

There are cheaper alternatives but especially where the front-end and steering is concerned, getting what you pay for is a very real thing here.

Going with this configuration will set your Jeep up for life and none of it is hard to install. Too bad you don't live closer to me, it could be installed in a morning complete with setting your toe-in and getting the steering wheel recentered.
just as a heads up jerry your #3 and #4 link are the same thing. here is the link for the stabilizer I think you intended on putting in
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:07 AM   #13
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just as a heads up jerry your #2 and #3 link are the same thing.
Yes they are, the steering stabilizer is shown further down that same page.
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Yes they are, the steering stabilizer is shown further down that same page.
my mistake lol well now the OP has a link straight to the stabilizer
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If you're on a budget consider lightly used parts. where are you located?

if you want to try OE replacements. you may be able to find some stuff off people on here who upgraded.

Or you can goto autozone and get all new parts (get the currie setup over this option as the price will be close to the same). If you do decide to go to the auto parts store get Moog.
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Old 03-03-2010, 09:01 PM   #16
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thanks alot everyone now is there anyone who lives close to akron oh who wants to come help put this crap on it will be here this friday so i get to figure out how to work on steering crap. I also ended up replacing the shocks and the ball joints but everyone i talked to throught quadratec told me to get rid of those other two bars they was saying that whever built it tried to use them as frame stabalizers. So they are gone and on with the new crap but jerry thanks you was a big help and if anyone that knows how to work on front ends that would mabye give up a phone number so if i have issues instaling i can ask questions i would appriciate that to. Once again thank you for the help

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