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Old 10-12-2010, 03:42 PM   #1
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HELP! I can't get my drum off!

I have some broken lug studs so I am trying to replace them and I can't get the f'n drum off. I tried following the manuals instructions and put PB Blaster where the drum and hub meet. What do I do now? It is still stuck.

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Old 10-12-2010, 03:47 PM   #3
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I'm gonna throw this out there, but have you tried hitting it with a hammer?
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Old 10-12-2010, 03:49 PM   #4
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I tried tapping it with a small sledge with no luck. How hard can I hit it without damaging something?
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Just had the same problem, hit mine with a sledge pretty hard to break it loose and as soon as I could I jammed a pry bar in there. After 10 minutes of prying got it to pop off.
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Old 10-12-2010, 03:59 PM   #6
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Be sure u have backed the rear shoes off. Next try a body hammer to knock it off
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:00 PM   #7
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I took a jack hammer to mine...finally after 5 minutes it pop off.
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:02 PM   #8
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Not sure, but that's how I've always done it and I've never had a problem. Just take a metal mallet and give it a few good smacks all around, and you should be able to pull it right off.
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:07 PM   #9
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This may be a dumb question but how do you back the shoes off?
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Old 10-12-2010, 04:23 PM   #10
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On the back side of the drum, in that oval hole, get a brake adjusting tool (looks like a bent screwdriver) and twist the adjuster up from (bottom to top... i think) to bring in the brake shoes. Make sure you don't have your E-Brake set.
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This on time I had my e-brake on and had the same thing happin. Wonder Why.. DUH on my part. Not saying any thing but is the e-brake on???
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Old 10-12-2010, 05:40 PM   #12
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Nope, e-brake has been off (one of the first things I checked). I will be making a trip to autozone soon to get a adjuster tool and a 3 claw puller.
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Old 10-12-2010, 05:54 PM   #13
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I usually just keep pounding firmly with a 3 lb sledge until it jumps over the ridge on the drum. I am not sure the adjustment hole is open unless someone opened them before.
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No need for a special brake star wheel adjusting tool, any plain big flat handled screwdriver can be used to spin the star wheel to adjust the brake shoes inward.
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I turned the wheel from the bottom to the top (clockwise if you are at the back of the Jeep looking to the front) until it seemed loose and still no luck getting the damn thing off. I am getting desperate....
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:52 PM   #16
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I guess I'll just PB Blast it and let it sit over night..... Anybody live in Louisville and want to come over and give it a try?
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Did you PB the drum hole where the axle pokes through. They do freeze on there. I also pry the drum lightly between the drum and backing plate while tapping the edge of the drum from the rear.
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Yup, that's where I put it. I tried the prying thing too... No dice. I even took a wire brush to it and PB'd again.....
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I used a 3lb sledge. and beat the hell out of both of mine for a good 15-20 mins..
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Yea, I also just beat the hell out of mine with a small metal sledgehammer. The thing is pretty thick, I doubt your gonna bust it up by yourself. And Jerry's right, the adjusting tool is a waste of money. It literally is just a flat head screwdriver. You'll need two, one to pull down the tension lever and the other to move the star in the other direction. It's difficult if you haven't seen it before.
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I would get a puller and a 3 lb. hammer and TRY NOT to get to MAD at this damn thing!!
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I guess I'll try beating on it some more tomorrow. It is difficult to get any backswing to give it a good lick. Oh well, I don't have much choice though because I only have 2 studs left to lug nut. I'll give a 6 pack of the beer of choice to anyone who can come and get this damn thing off...
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You'll need two, one to pull down the tension lever and the other to move the star in the other direction. It's difficult if you haven't seen it before.
I looked in the little hole and saw the star to turn. Where the hell is the tension lever?
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I guess I'll try beating on it some more tomorrow. It is difficult to get any backswing to give it a good lick. Oh well, I don't have much choice though because I only have 2 studs left to lug nut. I'll give a 6 pack of the beer of choice to anyone who can come and get this damn thing off...
You dont need hard wacks just firm wacks and rotate the drum while your wacking it. It's the only way I have been able to get the drum over the hardened dust ridge that builds up over time.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:25 PM   #26
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I may have a mangled Dana 35 for sale tomorrow! Thanks for everyones help, I'll post again when I finally get it off.
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The easiest way to remove the drum is by using an air hammer with a hammer attachment in it. Just let the air hammer rattle around the face of the drum in and around the studs. The air hammer not only hits the drum it causes vibration that will break the drum loose from the hub and axle if it is rusted to it. This works every time. The air hammer hits the drum many more times than using a handheld hammer. As other people stated, if the drum breaks loose but will not come off you have grooves on the inside of the drum. If this is the case you have to back the starwheel off. Go the opposite way than you would to adjust the brakes. As was stated you have to use a small screwdriver or punch to push the adjuster arm away from the starwheel and turn the starwheel backwards from the way it turns to adjust the brakes. This can be difficult if you have never done it. Hopefully the drum is just rusted to the hub and/or axle. I use a large air hammer for this and have never damaged a drum. I always reccomend removing the drums any time the wheel is off to prevent this.
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Turning the star wheel from bottom to top TIGHTENS IT!
It won't turn the other way unless you free it - look at a diagram - a lever on the outside pushes the star wheel DOWN ON THE OUTSIDE to adjust it - which is UP on your side - to tighten it.

Use the big flat srewdriver - or an adjusting "spoon" to turn the wheel, at the same time poke a small screwdriver in next to it all the way past the wheel to the adjusting lever - push the spring loaded lever AWAY from the star wheel. When you poke the small screwdriver in the hole past the star wheel, you can feel it's spring loaded.

Turn the star wheel a couple of turns, now go step on the pedal fairly hard and release. That centers the shoes so they don't catch on the small wear ridge on the drum.

You should be able to easily pull the drum off now with 2 fingers - and without any more damage.

DON'T FORCE IT - USE YOUR HEAD!
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rrich got it spot on. the tension bar is underneath the star adjuster.



There's a great picture of it. That bar underneath the star thing needs to pulled down so you can spin the star in the direction rrich stated. When I did mine, I actually also twisted the drum while pulling and pushing it repeatedly. It did eventually come off.
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Awesome... I hate not knowing what I am doing. I will try this tomorrow! This will be one of those situations where I finally get it off and see what was going on underneath the drum and go "oh yeah... That's what I was doing wrong..... Thanks for the tutorial on how to use the adjusters.

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