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Old 11-08-2010, 08:02 PM   #1
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Help please!!!

I know this has been talked about in many other threads but honestly I don't feel like reading through all those pages just to not find the answer.
I put a 3.5" RE lift on about a week ago and have been driving it all last week with no vibrations or wobbles at all. Well today on my way to work I hit a dip in the road (same one I hit every day last week with no problem) and DEATH WOBBLE!!!!! OMG I almost crapped my pants. My question is will a dropped pitman arm fix this or is it something else because I had already ordered one last week because I didn't like the angle the steering linkage was at. It only did it that one time but I would honestly never want to experience that again as long as I live.

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Old 11-08-2010, 08:05 PM   #2
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I know this has been talked about in many other threads but honestly I don't feel like reading through all those pages just to not find the answer.
I put a 3.5" RE lift on about a week ago and have been driving it all last week with no vibrations or wobbles at all. Well today on my way to work I hit a dip in the road (same one I hit every day last week with no problem) and DEATH WOBBLE!!!!! OMG I almost crapped my pants. My question is will a dropped pitman arm fix this or is it something else because I had already ordered one last week because I didn't like the angle the steering linkage was at. It only did it that one time but I would honestly never want to experience that again as long as I live.
A drop pitman arm is not needed. If you would have taken the time to type this and would have read the sticky all of your problems would be solved

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If you needed an adjustable track bar, you need a dropped pitman arm, otherwise there's really no need. Make sure everything is torqued to spec and nothing has loosened up after driving it. I just installed this lift on my Jeep and definately needed a dropped pitman arm/adjustable track bar, so you probably should get one too. However, the problem shouldn't be the pitman arm, more likely the linkages.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:19 PM   #4
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Sorry, if you don't feel like taking the time to read, you don't want to get it fixed.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:29 PM   #5
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Kit didn't come with adj track bar or pitman arm. I bought adj track bar but haven't installed it yet. Guess I'll do that tomorrow.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:20 AM   #6
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Drop pittman arm causes bump steer if added. Did you get the jeep aligned?
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You have 3 things to look at. Your steering linkage, your balance on your tires, then are your control arms square up front.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:06 AM   #8
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Drop pittman arm causes bump steer if added. Did you get the jeep aligned?
I thought pitman arm helped with bumpsteer. Also I'm taking off work to get it aligned Friday.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:44 AM   #9
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Have someone sit in the Jeep and gently rock the steering wheel back and forth, just enough so that it barely moves the tires. Not a lot, just a little.

Climb underneath and watch as everything moves. Look for abnormal movement. PARTICULARLY on your track bar.
Check every nut and bolt that you touched to be sure they are properly torqued.
You might also try rotating your tires. BUT one step at a time. If you do too much all at once it's hard to know what did and didn't work.

Death wobble can really make a believer out of you in a hurry. First time it happened to me, I almost parked it and walked the rest of the way home. It took a couple of months before I stopped clenching the steering wheel while going around that corner.
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Have someone sit in the Jeep and gently rock the steering wheel back and forth, just enough so that it barely moves the tires. Not a lot, just a little.

Climb underneath and watch as everything moves. Look for abnormal movement. PARTICULARLY on your track bar.
Check every nut and bolt that you touched to be sure they are properly torqued.
You might also try rotating your tires. BUT one step at a time. If you do too much all at once it's hard to know what did and didn't work.

Death wobble can really make a believer out of you in a hurry. First time it happened to me, I almost parked it and walked the rest of the way home. It took a couple of months before I stopped clenching the steering wheel while going around that corner.
Tried that yesterday and appeared all my tie rod ends and track bar bushings are worn. All that is being changed out tonight.
The DW happened again on the way home yesterday so bad that it jerked me off the road into the ditch. Luckily it was filled in so it was flat.
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My track bar just started popping. Going to get it addressed today or tomorrow.

Hopefully you'll get it fixed without too much expense or difficulty.

I'm really glad to hear that your ditch encounter wasn't a disaster! Damn! That's scary stuff right there.
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Just finished installing new track bar and Currie Currectlink drag link/tie-rod kit. Getting alignment and wheels balanced tomorrow. Hopefully this will fix it.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:46 AM   #13
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Put about 400 miles on it this weekend and seems to be alright. Still nervous as hell though.
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a beefed up steering stabilzer may be in order as well
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a beefed up steering stabilzer may be in order as well

According to some past posts on this forum a steering stabilzer will only mask deeper problems.

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