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Old 11-24-2009, 04:19 PM   #1
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If you know about steering, please HELP.

I had the input shaft seal to the steering box and front drive shaft replaced a week ago. Since then, the steering is really strange.

Between 10 and 2 o'clock on the wheel, it goes straight (wasn't like that before). Turning right, response is immediate.

With the wheel positioned at 12 (straight) and turning toward 10, the shaft moves but the pitman arm doesn't start moving until past the 10 o'clock mark. Is this normal?

Its also making popping sounds when driving and a rattle taking off in first gear.

3 days after I had it back, a loud pop happened. When I looked under it, the pitman arm was very loose. I tightened it back up, its not come loose since.

At about 45 mph, the steering seems unstable.

Is any of this normal or alignment? I'm concerned because it didn't do it before it was repaired.

97 TJ, 2.5L, 5 speed, 2"lift, 4:10 gear ratio

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Old 11-24-2009, 04:41 PM   #2
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sounds like the shop killed the box. you can adjust the gears in the streering box with the bolt on top of it so that it takes the play out, obviously they didnt do it when they put the box back together. what really concerns me tho is the pitman arm. if it popped and then was loose i bet they put it on wrong and probably destroyed the arm or the output shaft on the box, or both. there is a wider groove on the output shaft that has to line up with the wider groove on the arm, it can be forced on wrong and it sounds like what happened. take the pitman arm off and have a look at the arm, possibly put some pics up for us.

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Old 11-24-2009, 04:50 PM   #3
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It concerns me, too. What exactly am I looking for with the pitman arm and what parts do you need pics of (the ends, etc) for you to be able to tell anything about it?
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:52 PM   #4
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Did the pitman arm need to come off to replace the seal?
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:31 AM   #5
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I feel pretty stupid right about now. It wasn't the pitman arm
that was loose. It was the drag link, the sleeve was almost
completely off.
Same question with steering, though.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:38 AM   #6
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I kinda have the same issue, but not as bad. Theres play in the steering wheel for me, though no draglink was loose. Where the heck is the bolt to the gears on top of the steering box? Ive told my problem to alot of people but none have ever mentioned adjusting the gears, would adjusting it tighten it?

And did you try calling them? usually they warranty their labor for like 15-30 days.
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:50 PM   #7
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I kinda have the same issue, but not as bad. Theres play in the steering wheel for me, though no draglink was loose. Where the heck is the bolt to the gears on top of the steering box? Ive told my problem to alot of people but none have ever mentioned adjusting the gears, would adjusting it tighten it?

And did you try calling them? usually they warranty their labor for like 15-30 days.
The bolt is on top of it. You have to take off the plate on your bumper to get to it. I've heard differing stories on whether adjusting it is beneficial. Some say it fixed their problem, others warn it only fixes it temporarily, like a few days and others say it didn't do anything but make their steering too tight. I'd like to know the answer to that as well.
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:47 PM   #8
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hmm Ill take a look at that tomorrow, as for the plate off my bumper, would that be the plastic piece I ripped off? If so that means ill have to take off my whole bumper and I dont really feel like doing that right now.
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Old 11-26-2009, 08:27 PM   #9
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the bolt is hidden by the plastic piece that covers the sway bar, no need to remove bumper. the bolt that you adjust is actually an allen head iirc. DO NOT go to tight or it will wear the gears faster but a little tighter will make an old box feel newer.

ok so it was the drag link that was loose. when you tightened it did it fix any of the problems you were having? i would take it back and have them do the alignment over because i bet the wheel isnt centered is it? if that would have come all the way off you would have had no steering so im glad you found it.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:14 PM   #10
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Dude, dont pay someone to do your alignment when all it takes is 20 minutes. You actually reminded me to take pb blaster to my tie rod tonight.

Literally unless you get adjustable control arms, the only thing a shop adjusts is your toe in, which is literally tightening or loosening your tie rod and measuring the distance between your wheels in the front and rear and getting with in 1/8 to 1/16 of an inch.

Ive never done one but am going to attempt it as it costs around $90 for an alignment. but if theyre doign the alignment for free, do it, I definitely took mine back when 4wheelparts didnt do my steering alignment with my 4 wheel alignment.

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