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Old 10-10-2013, 05:49 PM   #1
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Jeep brother is down (HELP) (pics)

On Tuesday when I was driving back from work late I noticed my temperature gauge go up and it was on the caution red hot side. I pulled over several different times this happened (it would go back down when I stopped, but go back up when I drove) and the radiator lid was luke warm and not hot at all. I also didn't notice any unusual factors. I figured it was just something faulty with the gauge. I have driven it about 100 miles since then ann it still told me it was hot and had no problems. It definitely was not getting as hot as it was saying.

I was driving from work today and when I turned the key I noticed a quick sputter. I wondered what it was but it sounded fine after that. I drove about 4 miles down the road when I smelt some burning anti-freeze and at a stoplight someone even told me my jeep was leaking anti-freeze (coolant) so I instantly pulled over. When I pulled over I saw anti-freeze all over the back right side of my engine.

Here are pics right here I took right when I opened my hood:


as you can see there is a little anti-freeze splattered all over that area above. It was no where else under the hood.


a closer look you can see it on the spark plugs.

I got my neighbor to take me home and my jeep is still parked and left where I pulled over. I was afraid to drive it more for fear of messing it up.

What does this problem look like to y'all?

On a side note I just had 2 sensors go bad a week ago. The crankshaft sensor which was burnt up has been replaced, but I have yet to replace the TPS Throttle sensor which I don't know if that could be a factor. It has been slipping on me pretty bad since it went bad.

I really appreciate any input that I can receive. Thank you.

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Old 10-10-2013, 05:55 PM   #2
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Its' a 2.5L 4 Cyl BTW

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Old 10-10-2013, 06:44 PM   #3
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Your picture is not the greatest. Hard to tell. You have your heater hoses there, a head gasket, the radiator hose up front?? Is the rear upper freeze plug bad? Need better photos..
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:26 PM   #4
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Your picture is not the greatest. Hard to tell. You have your heater hoses there, a head gasket, the radiator hose up front?? Is the rear upper freeze plug bad? Need better photos..
The photos are pretty much just to show where the leaked radiator fluid was.

I figured it would help to know where the coolant was to maybe diagnose a bad part.
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Could be several things as mentioned in the post above. If it was mine I would start it and see where it is coming from.
You could get it pressure tested if you don't want to start it.
It looks to me like maybe the Radiator has ruptured and the fan is blowing it around..just a guess!
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:56 PM   #6
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Could have been the thermostat stuck, no coolant flow. Rad would not get hot, engine would. But after that? Like said it's tough to tell where it's coming from, going down the road the wind could blow the coolant everywhere.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:12 PM   #7
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From what I gather it sounds like a water pump. I've had several vehicles get hot at higher revs because the pump was so weak it couldn't push water past the thermostat. It was only a matter of time before the bearing wore out and it was spraying water all over. Just a guess though.
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It has to be related to the overheating on the gauge.

What part would have symptoms as to triggering my over heating gauge? It would constantly say I am hotter the further I drove, but when I popped the hood the radiator cap was luke warm.

I drove it around 100 miles like this.
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... when I popped the hood the radiator cap was luke warm...
I'd say your thermostat was stuck in the "OPEN" position. That would explain why your engine never really got hot, only warm.
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I'd say your thermostat was stuck in the "OPEN" position. That would explain why your engine never really got hot, only warm.
Could this cause a coolant leak?

I had the thermostat replaced last month.


I also heard a quick sputtering sound when I first started up my engine last time.
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After reading your post again, I would say either thermostat stuck close, not open. If close, water can't flow and motor would get hot. This might also cause your thermostat housing seal to go. But, everything everyone has stated could be an issue. Could be a blown head gasket, if coolant gets in the cylinder, there will be sputtering.
Like someone else said, I would start it and look for a leak. I might check my oil and pull my plugs to see what they look like.
Your pics make it hard to tell. We are all throwing darts blind folded.
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Check your heater core lines. Could have a pin hole judging from the location of the antifreeze. Also take it to O'Reilly or Autozone and have them put a pressure tester on the radiator. Once up to pressure it will show you any leaks that are visible, especially around the water pump and thermostat housing.
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... I would say either thermostat stuck close, not open. If close, water can't flow and motor would get hot...
If the thermostat was stuck in the CLOSED position, he wouldn't have been able to drive 100 miles.

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... I drove it around 100 miles like this.
Having the thermostat stuck in the OPEN position wouldn't cause it to start leaking.
But it could explain why the engine never really got hot, only luke warm.

You could also start all over.
Wipe everything down, dry off everything, so that there is no coolant on any of your components.
Drive around for a very short while. Stop, & check to see where the coolant is starting to accumulate.
Like others have said, I think your fan is blowing it all over the place, making it really hard to discover the exact location of the leak.

Good luck.
Let us know what you find out.
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That's true too! He would have over heated! I missed that part... But thought he said the motor was hot but radiator just warm...
Head gasket? You could drive that far on head gasket but would run hot. I replaced a friends head gasket yesterday and with blown head gasket, he drove from san Antonio to fort worth blowing coolant out the exhaust!!!!
Without seeing it, all we can do is guess! Whatever it is, it's an easy fix....

Pressurize the tank, pull plugs, dip stick. Diverdowns advice will save u time
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... Head gasket? You could drive that far on head gasket but would run hot. I replaced a friends head gasket yesterday and with blown head gasket, he drove from san Antonio to fort worth blowing coolant out the exhaust!!!!
The "blown head gasket" may be the answer.



That would explain -
  • why he was able to drive without overheating;
  • where his coolant leak is originating.
The issue of his engine never really getting hot might just be another issue, not related to this problem at all.

If his coolant leak is from a blown head gasket, and it is leaking from the front of the engine, that could explain why there is coolant EVERYWHERE. As the coolant emerges from the front of the engine, the fan just blows it all over the place.

An easy way to verify whether this is where the leak is starting from would be to wipe everything down, including the head gasket. Drive a little, and check that head gasket area first.

You only want to drive for a short distance, because if you drive it for a while, once the leak starts, it will spread (again) to all of your components. Then you are back where you started. If you drive for just a short distance, then the coolant hopefully hasn't had the time to travel too far, therefore, giving you your best shot at locating the leak.

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