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Old 07-21-2013, 12:26 PM   #1
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Jeep wont start... dash doesnt even light up or beep, but have full power

It's been happening the last week or so and finally yesterday I had to get it towed home. I can't get it to start let alone even click. On top of that the dash doesn't light up or make the beeping sound. The radio doesn't work, but everything else has full power. Battery is a few months old, the negative terminal has been replaced (going to replace the positive terminal today as it's rusted and a little loose), and the starter relay has been swapped around with a non essential relay. Within the past week if it didn't start I'd pop the hood jiggle around the fuse box around, push the fuses in, and it would start. Ideas? Jeep is a 2005 Rubicon with a manual transmission.

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Old 07-21-2013, 12:57 PM   #2
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I have a 04 X that was having the same problem. Couldn't figure it out. Replace ignition switch, cleaned terminals, replaced relay. Took the fuze out for the clutch safety switch. Finally had it towed to local Jeep repair shop. Turned out to be the ignition actuator and another part which I cannot remember now. Don't know which was which but the one piece was in the steering column behind the ignition, which ended up being broke. Cost me about 200$. Haven't had a starting problem since.

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Old 07-21-2013, 01:09 PM   #3
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Ya after reading about the clutch safety switch and ignition switch I'm going to try that first... Along with cleaning and replacing my terminals.

These are the two threads I found...
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BTW, starter has also been replaced within the last year
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:18 PM   #4
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When this is happening & the key still on, try the turn signals & the wipers. Do either or both work?
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:40 PM   #5
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Yes both work...


Took the ignition apart and this is what I found...



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This broken little piece, but I suspect that's not the cause...?


Also I replaced the other battery terminal sooo time to put it all back together and hope for the best...
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:19 PM   #6
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So, no to the radio but yes to the signals & wipers?
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:31 PM   #7
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:47 PM   #8
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Well, that actually points away from this but as long as you have the ignition switch off, check the connector’s 3 red wires for battery power.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:31 PM   #9
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Pulled the entire ignition again. A buddy and I concluded it's coming somewhere from there and not from the fuse box. If we jiggled the key around, the dash would light up and it would start beeping. However, after the clutch is pushed in, the beeping and dash shut off again. Sooo... I suppose it's either the ignition or where it plugs into the main harness (black box looking thing)...
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3 red battery wires? Where are those located at?
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:43 AM   #11
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In the connector that plugs into the ignition switch. There are 3 red wires & all should have battery power to them. They all come from the PDC (fuse panel in front of the battery) & since you said you giggled the wires up there to get it to start, one could be bad. Also check all the terminals (10 of them) for any discoloration or signs of excessive heat & make sure none are pushed back & possibly not making full contact with the terminals in the switch when plugged in.

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