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Old 01-21-2014, 11:33 PM   #1
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Exclamation Jeep won't start, no click - nothing

1998 TJ Wrangler - 197,000 Miles - Daily Driver
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I just replaced the power steering pump yesterday and drove for at least an hour on my jeep back to my house - so that should have nothing to do with this, but I figured I would mention it.

When I try to start my Jeep, nothing happens. No click or anything.

What I've done so far:

I checked the battery voltage and it read 12.5 volts

All my lights work and are not dim

My lights do not dim when I try to start it

I can hear my fuel pump

I checked the starter relay using an ohm meter and it read around 65 ohms on two tabs and 0 on the other two tabs, so it's good -- I also just tried using a new relay and it didn't fix the problem either

I then put the dmm in the starter relay slot in my fuse box and got a 12 volt reading from pin number 30

I did the same thing as above but put my key to the on position and got a 12 volt reading from pin number 30, 85, and 87

I just tried putting a fuse (20amp) in the #20 slot behind my glove box (which should bypass the clutch safety switch, i believe) and that didn't work either.

I took my steering column panel off and turned my key to the on position and then removed the key's lock cylinder and tried to start it with a screwdriver and that didn't work either.

On my starter there appears to be 3 bolts. I attached a jumper cable from the top left one to the positive battery terminal and nothing happend. I then attached the jumper cable to the bottom left one to the positive battery terminal and all I saw was some sparks but not very much. I did not connect it to the far right one because it looks like a ground, but I can see the red positive wire going to one of two (or both) of the studs on the left. I can't tell which one because of the black plastic cover it has on it.

Here is a picture of my starter so you can tell what I mean by 3 studs. (In the pic you can only see one of the left, there are two - vertically)




Anyone have any other ideas? I've literally tried everything that I have found on-line. If you want pictures, I will gladly post some. I'm completely stumped on this. It ran perfect yesterday.

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:21 AM   #2
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Hit the starter with something, the brushes may be stuck. A ball peen hammer works the best but ive used a pipes 2x4. Ive found it works best to have someone turning the key best if its you so you dont have to get dirty while the other person bangs on the strater. Also just because you have twelve volts doesnt mean you have the amps to turn the starter.

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:25 AM   #3
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Hit the starter with something, the brushes may be stuck. A ball peen hammer works the best but ive used a pipes 2x4. Ive found it works best to have someone turning the key best if its you so you dont have to get dirty while the other person bangs on the strater. Also just because you have twelve volts doesnt mean you have the amps to turn the starter.
I tried hitting it with my hand earlier because it 0 degrees outside, but i'll try using a screw driver instead right now.
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:30 AM   #4
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Well I had no luck with that either... Thanks for the advice though
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Hook up a 9 volt to the relay and make sure the switch is actually closing. Also do a voltage drop on the pos side of the starter. Just a few ideas
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Hook up a 9 volt to the relay and make sure the switch is actually closing. Also do a voltage drop on the pos side of the starter. Just a few ideas
Sorry for my ignorance, but care to explain how to do those? I did try a new relay though.
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Old 01-22-2014, 06:33 AM   #7
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First test the starter /solenoid

Very easy but make sure auto in park or manual in neutral before proceeding

Now remove the small wire from the starter unit it is a small normal size wire not battery cable size

Now connect a new small wire to positive battery terminal then touch other end of this wire to terminal on starter where you removed the small wire and see if starter cranks engine

If it does the starter wires involving key and relay have a prob but if it does not the prob is either starter/solenoid unit or main cables supplying power or ground from battery to starter

Test and report back
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When I put the charger/tester on my battery, it reads 14.1 or higher. My mother-in-laws car wouldn't start a week to two ago during our first polar vortex. I put the charger/tester on it and it read 12.6. Wouldn't turn over, click, nada. I jumped it with my Jeep to get it going, brought it to my home and then charged it overnight at 2amps and it worked great the next morning. Took it to an auto shop to have the battery and alternator checked and both were working fine. She drives a lot of short trips around town, so it just doesn't get a chance to charge properly.
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http://www.freeasestudyguides.com/vo...drop-test.html

Shows where to put the leads for the damn. When you do this you'll need someone to crank the jeep. Look at the voltage while it's cranking. Since you replaced the relay and that didn't help it's probably not the relay. Let me know what you get
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Old 01-22-2014, 10:42 PM   #10
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I have tried all the above mentioned and no luck. I am going to bear lying in the snow and -0 degree temperature and go out and remove my starter tonight and get a new one tomorrow.

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