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Old 07-18-2009, 10:19 PM   #1
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LED Tail Installation Help Needed

I installed LED taillights on my 98 today.The turn signals blink very fast now, just like when you have a burnt out bulb. Is there a way to make them blink at a normal speed? Below is a link that shows which lights I have.
http://grote.com/product.php?product_number=G5082-5

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Old 07-19-2009, 12:01 AM   #2
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Trico makes a special flasher relay for LED's.
It's called EP-26 LED / 2-6 Lamps.
You should be able to pick one up at your local Autozone, Checker, or Napa.
I think I paid around $17 for mine.

To be honest though, I don't like them.
I only used mine for about 2 days, then ripped in out.
It does take care of the fast flash, but it also causes a 1-2 second delay before the blinker starts to flash.
I just put up with the fast flash now.
Yes, it's a bit annoying, but it's also more responsive.

Hope this helps.

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i like mine to go fast ....i tried realys didnt work out that great...
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Here you go, everything you wanted to know about this subject for '97-00 TJs... LED Flasher FAQ

I used the instructions in the above link to modify my '97 TJ's flasher to work right with my ORO LED tail lights.

For 2001 and newer, go to LED Tail Light Turn Signal Modification
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I made load resistors myself for about $7.
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the problem with load resistors isthe generate loads of heat. there is a way to modify the flsher you have to work properly. stu olson has a great write-up on his website. (stu-offroad.com)
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:34 AM   #7
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Thanks to everyone for replying. I have read all of the web page links & they all sound like good ideas & I'm sure they will work. I e-mailed Grote about my problem & this is what they told me....

Dallan - you have greatly reduced your Amp draw and your flasher thinks you have a lamp out. The fast flash rate is it's way of telling you that. If it's not to late to take these lamps back, what you really should have bought was the p/n's G5202 and G5212. These have Load equalizing resistors built in, and you would not have incurred an change to your system. These lamps have a Side Marker lamp on them , but that should just be an added benefit for you.
If this is not an option for you, you will have to get someone to install a resistor on each side to bring the Amp draw back up enough to fool your flasher.
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What benefits are had with the LED bulbs. I know they must last longer but are there any others?
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Basically they are just brighter & look neater, because they have alot of small bulbs in them versus just one bulb. They are expensive though.
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the problem with load resistors isthe generate loads of heat. there is a way to modify the flsher you have to work properly. stu olson has a great write-up on his website. (stu-offroad.com)
The load resistors are only on the flasher circuit which is not constantly on. The flasher is not on for very long. My neighbor and myself both did ours. We had the flasher in for 5 min and at best, the resistors got warm. Not "hot" at all. I have two Radio Shack 25w 10 ohm resustors in parallel between the flasher positive and chassis ground. (The stock clasher bulb resistance is about 5 ohms). The resistors are in heat shrink and stuffed in the tub behind the light.
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Two 25 watt 10 resistors in parallel is like a 50 watt 5 ohm resistor and if you ask me, any resistor that needs to be 50 watts in size must be dissapating a lot of heat. Even if they're only disappating 25 watts total, that's a lot of heat. Most resistors are only 1/4, 1/2, or 1 watt.

Personally I'd rather do the modification described in the first above link which only requires that a circuit board path be cut. That's what I did for my '97 TJ after installing my LED tail lights. Or for newer TJs, replace the flasher with one made for LEDs like is described in the second link above.
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If yours is made before 2001 chances are you can modify the stock one. That's what I did and mine works fine. I'll have to try and find pictures or something to show what to do.
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Like I said, barely warm running for 5 min. Even with the flasher circuit ON, it is not continous.

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