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Old 12-07-2007, 08:33 AM   #1
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Let the noises begin...

I've got two noises now that the cold weather is setting in.

First, as I push my clutch pedal in or let the clutch pedal out, I hear a creaking noise like a door hinge that needs oil. It is noticeable inside and outside. If I warm the jeep up and drive for 10 minutes, the noise is still there. If I warm it up and drive for about 30 minutes, the noise finally disappears. I'm thinking that it is something with the linkage, but I had someone look at it and they told me it could be a seal or something inside the clutch case because there isn't much externally that could be making the noise. Does that sound right? If it's external, what can I spray on the linkage to lubricate it?

Second, I just heard a new noise this morning. When I went to start the jeep, I heard a fairly loud buzzing noise when I turned the ignition to on before starting it. The noise is coming from somewhere under the dash and would last a few seconds before stopping. When I got to work and everything was warm, I tried it again. The sound was faint but still there. It sounds like some electronic motor that turns on with the ignition. I don't think it was the fan motor because I turned the fan to "off" (the O) and I still heard the noise.

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First noise, not sure, but it sounds like you are on the right track. May want to check the actual "hinge" for your clutch at the top of the pedal mechanism.

Second noise may be your fuel pump running, and you are hearing it work a little now that everything is cold.

Other than that, I got nothin'! I am sure there will be other opinions, and I very easily could be wrong! (Wouldn't be the first time today)

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First noise, not sure, but it sounds like you are on the right track. May want to check the actual "hinge" for your clutch at the top of the pedal mechanism.

Second noise may be your fuel pump running, and you are hearing it work a little now that everything is cold.
Thank you for your response.

Is there a lubricant safe to spray on the "hinge" that won't ruin anything?

Also, where is the fuel pump located? The sound seems to come from under the dash, but could be on the firewall somewhere.

Has anyone had noises like this in the cold?
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Anyone have any other info?
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Thank you for your response.

Is there a lubricant safe to spray on the "hinge" that won't ruin anything?

Also, where is the fuel pump located? The sound seems to come from under the dash, but could be on the firewall somewhere.

Has anyone had noises like this in the cold?
I would just use white lithium grease on the clutch pedal.

As for the fuel pump, its actually in the tank, but could be transmitting noise through the hard line to the firewall area.

Third possibility, and for fear of sounding dumb, do you have a CD in the CD player (or cassette in the tape deck)? If the second noise is not one of the two things that I have suggested, I am completely out of ideas!
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I would just use white lithium grease on the clutch pedal.

As for the fuel pump, its actually in the tank, but could be transmitting noise through the hard line to the firewall area.

Third possibility, and for fear of sounding dumb, do you have a CD in the CD player (or cassette in the tape deck)? If the second noise is not one of the two things that I have suggested, I am completely out of ideas!
I thought that it might have been a cd, but i took that out and turned off the radio, but the noise was still there.

Is there any other part that could make a buzzing type of sound from the firewall area?
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Leaf in the ventilation system? Takes a few seconds of blowing for it to move to a place where it doesnt buzz?
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Leaf in the ventilation system? Takes a few seconds of blowing for it to move to a place where it doesnt buzz?
I would think that, but this is with the fan in the off (pointed to the O) position before even starting it up.
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CD player moving into position from its 'off position' or getting stuck?
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CD player moving into position from its 'off position' or getting stuck?
It seems it's something to do with the CD player. I had no CD in when it was making the noise. I inserted a CD in and no the noise is gone. Maybe it is something to do with the player trying to load a cd?
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oh well at least its not that serious. Keep a cd in there!
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:37 AM   #12
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I have that clutch noise it's not the pedel it's the throw out bearing. I have 108k on my clutch getting time to do a new one.
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Listin to my vid when i push the clutch pedel in you will hear the noise. Is that what you hear?
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my 05 had that clutch squeak within 10,000 miles of a fresh trans/clutch. Jeep basically says tuff crap. Lube the linkeage with white lithium grease, and if its still there(which it will be)then replace the clutch and throw out bearing everytime it starts squeaking, or deal with it Atleast thats what the different dealers here tell me.
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Open the door lay down on the floorboard (I know impossible) well kinda laydown. Look underneath the dash with a flashlight you will see where the clutch pushes on a rod that goes through firewall into engine compartment. put your hand on it and you will see that you can pull back the clutch interlock switch it slides on the rod. now this is the impossible part. With one hand hold flashlight with the other hand pull back the clutch interlock switch and with another hand spray wd-40 or equivelant into or onto rod where it goes into the firewall. it is almost impossible but it can be done. while laying down on the floor push in on the clutch and you will see that is where the sound is coming from. I grease mine every couple of months. I suspect that there is a bushing of some sort in there and it has worn out.. by the way after you grease it you will notice how much nicer your clutch pedal feels. and also the first time I greased mine the noise wouldnt go away I went inside and later came back out and the noise was gone. I guess that it takes time for the oil to seep in.. Hope this helps..
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Listin to my vid when i push the clutch pedel in you will hear the noise. Is that what you hear?
That is sorta what it sounds like, from what I can hear in the video. Mine only makes the noise in the cold weather. Once it hits 50 - 55 degrees, the noise goes away.


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my 05 had that clutch squeak within 10,000 miles of a fresh trans/clutch. Jeep basically says tuff crap. Lube the linkeage with white lithium grease, and if its still there(which it will be)then replace the clutch and throw out bearing everytime it starts squeaking, or deal with it Atleast thats what the different dealers here tell me.
I will lube everything that moves if I have to. I'm not sure it would be something inside the clutch. I'm not going to replace it only for the noise to come back. After driving for about a half hour, does yours quiet down?


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Open the door lay down on the floorboard (I know impossible) well kinda laydown. Look underneath the dash with a flashlight you will see where the clutch pushes on a rod that goes through firewall into engine compartment. put your hand on it and you will see that you can pull back the clutch interlock switch it slides on the rod. now this is the impossible part. With one hand hold flashlight with the other hand pull back the clutch interlock switch and with another hand spray wd-40 or equivelant into or onto rod where it goes into the firewall. it is almost impossible but it can be done. while laying down on the floor push in on the clutch and you will see that is where the sound is coming from. I grease mine every couple of months. I suspect that there is a bushing of some sort in there and it has worn out.. by the way after you grease it you will notice how much nicer your clutch pedal feels. and also the first time I greased mine the noise wouldnt go away I went inside and later came back out and the noise was gone. I guess that it takes time for the oil to seep in.. Hope this helps..
This I will try. I have a lamp flashlight that I can maybe leave on the floor and try to spray wd-40 on the rod. I'll post with results.
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Only when it's cold and mine is the throw out bearing.
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Only when it's cold and mine is the throw out bearing.
Damn! My TJ only has 26k on it.
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Wouldn't worry mine has 108k
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With one hand hold flashlight with the other hand pull back the clutch interlock switch and with another hand spray wd-40 or equivelant into or onto rod where it goes into the firewall.
and how many hands do you have?

Thanks though that helps quite a bit
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Wouldn't worry mine has 108k
...and for how long has it been making the noise?

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