Lift question. Hate me. - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 05-12-2013, 08:50 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Cameron138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 345
Lift question. Hate me.

Alright, I have a 1997, no lift. It's starting to get some spring sag, and I was looking at some 3 inch coil spacers. If I get those what else would I need to do, and how much lift would I get?

Cameron138 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 08:54 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Full Spool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calhan, Colorado
Posts: 627
Not digging that idea

Call me a hater

Full Spool is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 08:56 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
Jeffreybomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 601
Images: 3
I don't really understand. Why don't you just get a lift with new springs?
__________________
Majnoon on Those Fancy Leather Seats:

"Maybe if I buy my wife a bunch of stupid ass purses she will let me get them."

... and other WF nuggets of wisdom!
Jeffreybomb is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 09:04 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
Cameron138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 345
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffreybomb View Post
I don't really understand. Why don't you just get a lift with new springs?
I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/
Cameron138 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 09:08 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
PStov98TJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Long Beach, Mississippi
Posts: 2,005
3" spacers are a but excessive. Start with some 2" spacers. Then extend your bumpstops and get some longer shocks.
__________________
OME suspension, some JKS stuff, 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's w/Kevlar, 15x8 Pacer wheels, thedirtworx rear tire carrier
PStov98TJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 09:09 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
CarolinaBound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Home in Langhorne, PA and school at ECU
Posts: 1,136
Images: 6
a coil spacer is a lift. And don't go above 2", problem called coil bind. Will run ya $50-100. Or just get 1-2 inch lift springs. Other option is find a guy parting out a rig with less miles and pick up his old ones.
__________________
Poverty/College Budget 2004 TJ BB, 1.25" BL, MML, JK shocks, 31x10.5 AT2's

If it can't be fixed with squats or fish oil...your probably gonna die (u aware?)

Amp is getting power but my sub isn't working. PM me to help!
CarolinaBound is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 09:57 PM   #7
Motorized Toy Collector

WF Supporting Member
 
TJDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Eastern WA State
Posts: 2,650
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cameron138 View Post
I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/
You're 16. Be thankful you have a Jeep. Do what they say.

Life must really suck.
TJDave is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 10:08 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
TJspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 3,385
Do 2" coil spacers 1.25" body lift and 1" motor lift.
__________________
2000 solar yellow 4.0 sport 3" BDS, 1.25" JKS body lift, 1" Zone motor lift, JKS quicker disconnects, 33x10.5 BFG KM2 on black american racing wheels. D44 rear.
TJspeed is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 10:34 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Cameron138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 345
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave View Post

You're 16. Be thankful you have a Jeep. Do what they say.

Life must really suck.
Never said that bud, thankful for what I have, what I'm not thankful for are smartass replys.
Cameron138 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-12-2013, 11:26 PM   #10
Old School

WF Supporting Member
 
Water Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 3,953
Images: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjspeed View Post
do 2" coil spacers 1.25" body lift and 1" motor lift.
^^x2
__________________
Dennis
Water Dog is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 12:08 AM   #11
Motorized Toy Collector

WF Supporting Member
 
TJDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Eastern WA State
Posts: 2,650
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cameron138 View Post
Never said that bud, thankful for what I have, what I'm not thankful for are smartass replys.
Sorry. My comment may have been a bit harsh. I am a parent of a driving age teenager.
My #1 concern is her safety, followed by the fact that I am ultimately responsible for her actions in her vehicle while she is still a minor.

A lift is a lift, budget boost or otherwise, and in your own words "it's a no go".

Your 97 springs are sagging. Without offering advice that goes against the wishes of a minor's parents, you could replace the worn out springs with another set from a newer TJ. I just gave away my stock 04 springs that have been hanging out in my garage for a few years.

Good luck. Be safe in your Jeep.
TJDave is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 06:40 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
Cameron138's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 345
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave View Post

Sorry. My comment may have been a bit harsh. I am a parent of a driving age teenager.
My #1 concern is her safety, followed by the fact that I am ultimately responsible for her actions in her vehicle while she is still a minor.

A lift is a lift, budget boost or otherwise, and in your own words "it's a no go".

Your 97 springs are sagging. Without offering advice that goes against the wishes of a minor's parents, you could replace the worn out springs with another set from a newer TJ. I just gave away my stock 04 springs that have been hanging out in my garage for a few years.

Good luck. Be safe in your Jeep.
Thanks, Il look into new springs.
Cameron138 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 07:02 AM   #13
Jeeper
 
HobieSailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 64
I dont know where you are but have a complete set of OEM rubicon springs and shocks of my 05' with about 30k miles on them, no sag at all. PM me if interested.
HobieSailor is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 08:05 AM   #14
Jeeper
 
homebrwd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ashburn, VA
Posts: 1,086
You may want to just hang out and do some research. The fact that you asked how much lift you would get from adding in 3in spring spacers makes me nervous. The idea of getting springs form a newer TJ is going to be your best bet and cheaper. You only have to replace springs. Adding spacers you will also need to replace shocks and fix your bump stops. GL.
homebrwd is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 10:12 AM   #15
Old School

WF Supporting Member
 
Water Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 3,953
Images: 11
If you can use them (and your folks say its okay) I have a set of 2" spacers and 1" bump stop extensions (no bolts) that you can have if you want to pay postage. Probably around $13. PM if interested.
__________________
Dennis
Water Dog is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 10:33 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
Jeffreybomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 601
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cameron138 View Post
I can't get a lift. Too expensive. I'm only 16 and my parents say it's a no:/
My bad. Mistakenly read your initial post "how much lift would I get" as "how much lift should I get."
__________________
Majnoon on Those Fancy Leather Seats:

"Maybe if I buy my wife a bunch of stupid ass purses she will let me get them."

... and other WF nuggets of wisdom!
Jeffreybomb is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 10:34 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Ventura County
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by HobieSailor View Post
I dont know where you are but have a complete set of OEM rubicon springs and shocks of my 05' with about 30k miles on them, no sag at all. PM me if interested.
Just curious, would this change add any lift to my '99 Sport or just not sag?
Offrd is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 12:03 PM   #18
Jeeper
 
HobieSailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Offrd View Post

Just curious, would this change add any lift to my '99 Sport or just not sag?
No lift with 4.0L, Rubicon springs are not any taller. I think they may be a little stiffer tho...
HobieSailor is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 12:24 PM   #19
Jeeper
 
adkjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Northern Vermont
Posts: 1,615
I have stock springs from an 06 with only 28k on them if you want them PM me.
__________________
Vermont
Anyone who can legally own a firearm can carry it concealed in Vermont with no permit/license
of any kind
adkjoe is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 12:57 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
speedyrev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 189
If your springs are sagging, spacers aren't the answer. Springs are the answer.
If the Parents say "No Lift", then the only correct solution is replace the springs with the proper ones. You can buy new (safest) or check around a local Jeep club for someone who might have slightly used ones.
speedyrev is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 02:26 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Northwestern Pennsylvania, 1 hour away from Erie.
Posts: 143
Why don't they want you to lift it? If they just say "because I said so" like most parents do then I gotta say its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.

I'm buying the zone 4.25 combo kit when I'm back in the states because my springs sag very badly in the rear. The kit includes 3" suspension lift 1.25" body lift and 1" motor mount lift, which is to realign the drive train. It only cost about $600 depending on what options you want on it (e.g disconnecting sway bar links or nitrogen charged shocks)
__________________
1998 4 banger stock. 31" Mastercraft Courser M/Ts

SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 04:57 PM   #22
Motorized Toy Collector

WF Supporting Member
 
TJDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Eastern WA State
Posts: 2,650
Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetTeaDrinkerTJ98 View Post
Why don't they want you to lift it? If they just say "because I said so" like most parents do then I gotta say its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.
Yay! He just might get away with it!




Or, he may have his Jeep taken away from him.




Not good advice. It's too early in life to start high stakes gambling.
TJDave is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 05:23 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
n00g7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bay Area, CA // Western Wisconsin
Posts: 1,634
A 4.25 inch lift is pretty noticeable. Just tell your parents you're replacing the sagging springs and get a small coil lift. (e.g., with the OME springs http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-su...j/upgrades.htm) You can put on 31/32's at that point over what I'm assuming are 29's. Then save up for some new shocks (and a body lift/mml if you want to run 33's with the 2.5coils) and leave it at that.

2.5 springs + another inch in height due to tire size will be quite capable.
__________________
That moment when you look at a really nice JK and think to yourself, "Well I SUPPOSE I could see myself trading in my TJ for one of those, but for those ugly ass door handles."
n00g7 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 05:50 PM   #24
Old School

WF Supporting Member
 
Water Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 3,953
Images: 11
Just a guess here after raising 5 of my own....they probably don't want to pay for it..!
__________________
Dennis
Water Dog is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 05:57 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
wrangleryj90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Spokane,Wa
Posts: 493
If you are 16 and parents say no talk to them and explain that this is your hobby don't ask them to help pay for it and explain that off roading is better then playing video games
wrangleryj90 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 06:07 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
flflash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 519
Man if your 16 and your parents got you a Jeep to drive, probably give you gas money, pay for your registration and Insurance.......As a Father of three who I bought cars and paid all the bills plus put two of them thru college and have one still living at home and attending college....I'd say it would be a good idea to do as your parents ask and if your good, work hard and get good grades maybe they'll surprise you with some GOODIES for your Jeep come Birthday or Christmas time.

Go against their wishes and there's a good chance you'll be walking.
flflash is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 06:08 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
flflash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 519
HOWEVER! If the spring sagging issue could be approached as a safety issue and possibly a father son project you might just be in
flflash is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 06:12 PM   #28
Jeeper
 
n00g7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bay Area, CA // Western Wisconsin
Posts: 1,634
Quote:
Originally Posted by flflash View Post
Man if your 16 and your parents got you a Jeep to drive, probably give you gas money, pay for your registration and Insurance.......As a Father of three who I bought cars and paid all the bills plus put two of them thru college and have one still living at home and attending college....I'd say it would be a good idea to do as your parents ask and if your good, work hard and get good grades maybe they'll surprise you with some GOODIES for your Jeep come Birthday or Christmas time.

Go against their wishes and there's a good chance you'll be walking.
What parents don't know can't hurt them... I was making $18/hr in highschool, not minimum wage, and thus spent loads of $$ on cheap liquor. Always parked on the hilly part of the driveway too so my car would roll nicely away from the house before firing it up.
__________________
That moment when you look at a really nice JK and think to yourself, "Well I SUPPOSE I could see myself trading in my TJ for one of those, but for those ugly ass door handles."
n00g7 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 06:18 PM   #29
Jeeper
 
Some Farkin Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Northern Kentucky
Posts: 278
I wish I could've gotten a Jeep when I was 16! My vote is to go with what they say. I would suggest new or slightly used stock springs and a set of 31s. Further down the line try to work in a proper 2-3" spring lift as a father-son project. Do your research though, a budget boost is cheap for a reason.
__________________
05 TJ Sport build thread: My orange wallet lightener

Wife: "Did you pull through this parking lot just to look at another Jeep?"
Me: "Nooooooooooooo."
Some Farkin Guy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-13-2013, 06:33 PM   #30
Jeeper
 
flflash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 519
Quote:
Originally Posted by n00g7 View Post
What parents don't know can't hurt them... I was making $18/hr in highschool, not minimum wage, and thus spent loads of $$ on cheap liquor. Always parked on the hilly part of the driveway too so my car would roll nicely away from the house before firing it up.
Again as a father of three grown children and with a couple grandchildren I'll tell you there was damn little I did'nt know about what my children where doing. If you Love your children thats the way it is.....sounds like your parents loved you and cut you some slack don't think they did'nt know what was going on.

flflash is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:39 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC