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Old 04-09-2009, 09:51 PM   #1
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Lifter tick after oil change

Hey everyone. Last Saturday i changed oil on my jeep. 2003 Wrangler X, 4.0 I6 engine with 75500 miles. The previous owner has always used Havoline. 5w30 in the winter and 10w30 in the summer. I stuck with this because i have always used Havoline in most things i own anyway. Anyway being our sub 0 temps are over with i switched it to 10W30 for warmer months, I always use AC Delco PF13 Duraguard oil filters. On Tuesday when i left work i started my jeep and the lifter noise was louder then normal. It lasted till the jeep was warmed up and then everything was sounding back to normal. On Thursday morning i started my jeep to go to work, and the louder then normal lifter noise was there again. I sat in the driveway for about a minute to see if it would quit, and it didn't. I shut off my jeep, then 30 seconds later i restarted it, and there was no lifter noise. This has only happened twice, Is this a problem with switching to 10w30 oil, or What? If this continues should i switch it back to 5W30 and just run that all year around?
What do you guys think on this???

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Old 04-09-2009, 09:59 PM   #2
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it happens, i see no problem with what you're doing. i'll tell ya this, and i tell everyone this when it comes up. i'm a fan of the engine oil flush junk. i used to think it was junk, but i've seen it work, and pulled apart engines after it has run through

it is just a chemical, usually mainly keroscene. poor it in the oil, run for 5 mins, and change oil. this is a good idea to do, especially since its usually never been done. i'd do it every couple years. if you try it, the longer it drains the better.

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Hey everyone. Last Saturday i changed oil on my jeep. 2003 Wrangler X, 4.0 I6 engine with 75500 miles. The previous owner has always used Havoline. 5w30 in the winter and 10w30 in the summer. I stuck with this because i have always used Havoline in most things i own anyway. Anyway being our sub 0 temps are over with i switched it to 10W30 for warmer months, I always use AC Delco PF13 Duraguard oil filters. On Tuesday when i left work i started my jeep and the lifter noise was louder then normal. It lasted till the jeep was warmed up and then everything was sounding back to normal. On Thursday morning i started my jeep to go to work, and the louder then normal lifter noise was there again. I sat in the driveway for about a minute to see if it would quit, and it didn't. I shut off my jeep, then 30 seconds later i restarted it, and there was no lifter noise. This has only happened twice, Is this a problem with switching to 10w30 oil, or What? If this continues should i switch it back to 5W30 and just run that all year around?
What do you guys think on this???
I have the same sound coming from my 02 Sport....Sometimes it is very noisy at start up. Sometimes it isn't so bad. The thing about mine is, it is most always there no matter if the engine is cold or has been running for hours. The oil pressure is fine, (50psi) it does not leak oil anywhere, water temp is steady at 210, and absolutely does not burn any oil between changes. I bought it in early Feb and did the first oil chang on it a couple weeks ago. (10W30, Mopar filter) The oil level stayed consistent on stick every time I checked it. What in the world is causing this annoying TICK in the motor???
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Mine does it too, but it's not all the time, its only every once and a while. 150K and burns absolutely NO oil. I think the "lifter" noise you might be hearing is the timing chain slapping against the cover. I think its just normal for these 2.5's.
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it happens, i see no problem with what you're doing. i'll tell ya this, and i tell everyone this when it comes up. i'm a fan of the engine oil flush junk. i used to think it was junk, but i've seen it work, and pulled apart engines after it has run through

it is just a chemical, usually mainly keroscene. poor it in the oil, run for 5 mins, and change oil. this is a good idea to do, especially since its usually never been done. i'd do it every couple years. if you try it, the longer it drains the better.
I read an article in JP mag about using a quart of ATF, because of its higher detergent levels. Same idea dump a quart in..run for 5..then drain.


I also heard something about using a product called Sea Foam. Using a tube into the throttle body and letting it slowing suck the fluid in till its gone. Then run engine while it smokes out your entire neighborhood from the exhaust. Pull plugs... change them because they usually foul, and your engine is as clean as a whistle. Im a little hesitant on this one though.
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I read an article in JP mag about using a quart of ATF, because of its higher detergent levels. Same idea dump a quart in..run for 5..then drain.


I also heard something about using a product called Sea Foam. Using a tube into the throttle body and letting it slowing suck the fluid in till its gone. Then run engine while it smokes out your entire neighborhood from the exhaust. Pull plugs... change them because they usually foul, and your engine is as clean as a whistle. Im a little hesitant on this one though.
the atf is fine, not as effective as keroscene, but i've done that also. the sea foam is for the intake and carbon build up. i've never done it but many love it. at my shop we have a 3 part system that cleans the intake, injectors and all that. works great, the results are always noticeable.
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Wow. That whole "purposely fouling out all your plugs" sounds a little risky for my liking. I read that ATF article too and I didn't know how exactly it worked. Good to see others here that know. Is that kerosene stuff an actually product or do you just use straight kerosene?
As far as the original post goes, sounds like you forgot oil.
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^ it is a chemical you buy. any parts store sells it as "engine oil flush" you add to the oil run for 5 mins and change it. they don't tell you but its mainly keroscene.
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so would dumping a quart of straight kerosene be a bad idea?
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^i'm not sure, i wouldn't personally, although thats probably all the flush chemical is. but since i don't know for sure, i just pay the 6 bux for the chemical.

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