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Old 08-26-2007, 01:50 PM   #1
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lookin to upgrade the tie rod

need suggestions for a tie rod upgrade. I wan't something that is going to be "bulletproof" I've been eyeing the PSC tie rod, have a buddy who has one and I really like the look of it. Of course I want to keep the cost reasonable, so if you have any experiances, suggestions, or otherwise it would be appreciated. thanks in advance.

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Old 08-26-2007, 02:58 PM   #2
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Big Daddy, makes a beefed up tie rod, and I believe some others use the one from the XJ, real easy to get, at auto supply stores. Best way to get a bunch of ideas, just "Google" it.

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the ZJ tie rod is a good upgrade but not super cheap unles you can get the parts used. From Napa it was over $100 for the ZJ upgrade:

269-2788 Napa TRE $38.99
269-1134 Napa Adj-Sleeve $21.99
269-6085 Napa Tie-Rod $71.99

the 269 #s are the Napa part #. There are also different MOOG part number but basically the same thing. very beefy rod ends compared with the stock ends. and the ZJ tie rod is solid.

But a few weeks after I upgraded to the ZJ tie rod I broke the stock drag link. So I gave the ZJ tie rod to a friend and I upgraded to the Currie which has solid chromolly tie rod and drag link and much much larger rod ends.

If your upgrading the steering I'd recommend getting the whole thing replaced with something like the CUrrie or RK steering. Or just get a beefier tie rod but bring a spare drag link with you just incase.
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Currie has a complete steering upgrade. It looks stock, but is much beefier.
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Old 08-26-2007, 05:55 PM   #5
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The Big Daddy tie rod is a good inexpensive choice. It's very beefy and it's a good place to start. Of course an entire steering system is optimum but in the very least upgrade the tie rod.
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Currie has a complete steering upgrade. It looks stock, but is much beefier.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:36 PM   #7
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Cool. I guess I'll just call Joe for that too then!
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:52 PM   #10
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I have the Currie set up and have beat the hell out of it.
I would buy it again if I had to.
Now, with that said I have bent the tie rod and bought a replacement. I then bent the old one straight and have it as a spare.
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The real question is: Is it strong enough to run 35s? Thats in the very near future.
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definately strong enough for 35's or 37's for that matter. They aren't unbreakable, but nothing is. The one I have I bought used for only $100... the previous owner had bent it by slamming the tie rod directly into a rock. It was straightened in a hydrolic press and good as new.

Its solid chromo so you are getting a very tough product... once you see it in person and compare it to your stock steeering you'll understand how tough it is
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Cool! Thanks! I've done my best to work out all the other kinks in running a 5.5in LA and 35s. So that was my last stop. Next step is to find an 8.8 rear.
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great info guys thanks. not really looking into upgrading the whole set-up just yet but someday. I just really want to loose that tie rod so that I don't have to deal with that later. I think I might look into that BigDaddy set-up.
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I have the currie system, will be fine with 35-38 or bigger I would think. I did bust mine though, seems it does not like to hit stumps... good product though.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:05 AM   #16
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I think when I get my lift in the future its gonna be a 4" long arm runnin 33's. so with a complete system would I just be better off?
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If you can swing the money for a complete steering upgrade then do it. You'll need to do it eventually. However if funds are tight then I would put the Big Daddy tie rod for now. It's less than a hundred bucks and you can always sell it later and recoup some of your money when you do the full upgrade.
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yeah, I broke my stock drag link with the upgraded ZJ tie rod with only 285/75/16 tires. and those aren't even a full 33" x11.5 tire... at the time they were so worn they were actually more like 31's.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:16 AM   #19
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well if the full steering kit is only like 4 or so I might just think about doing that. but I think I really want to save up for my rock rails w/step. I'm just worried about getting in a bind (no pun intended) and having to get home with a bent tie rod. I figured just upgrade that and have one less thing to worry about.
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Well there's no doubt that one upgrade can expose the next weak link. Usually an upgraded tie rod puts the spotlight on the draglink.

It's still better than nothing.
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so the full system is the way to go when I can afford it. my next question is is curry the only one you guys would consider or what about this bigdaddy full system?
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I've never heard of the Big Daddy full system?

Currie or ORO U-Turn.
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As Scout said, just a stronger tie rod is ALOT better than just nothing. I don't think bigddaddy sells a complete steering system. But whatever you decide its also a good idea to get a spare stock steering assembly with tie rod, ends, and drag link all preassembled). I've got the currie steering but I still bring the stock spare steering just incase my currie breaks or if someone else I'm with needs it. I've already given out one set to someone in need already.

I carry my spare steering all pre assembled so I don't need to mess with assembling rod ends on the trail... and it was FREE... check with your local 4 wheeling shops to see if they have a free stock steering assembly they will give you. So even if you break a stock drag link, just swap in the spare steering and continue wheeling
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thanks for the advice I will look into the curry, sorry I have been up too long with not enough sleep and didn't mean the bigdaddy system, the PSC kit was the one I was thinkin about.
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I did the ZJ tie rod upgrade and got it for under 100 complete using the Moog numbers and getting the parts at AutoBone. I run 33's.

It IS stronger than stock, but if you want bulletproof, you'll want to upgrade the entire system. A stronger tie rod and TRE setup just moves the weak link to the drag link. So upgrading everything would be a wiser way to go if you can swing the $$ for it (or at least be planning it).
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i had upgraded to a ZJ tie rod after i bent my stocker. it held up just fine for me and was only $40 used when i bought it. going the brand new parts store route, i probably would've just gone with a big daddy.

simple scout has the right idea though.....if all you can swing is $100 or so, just get the big daddy. when funds allow it, sell it and buy a full steering system. however, if this is just an upgrade from stock and not necessarily a replacement for a damaged piece, i would just keep the stock stuff and save up for a full system.


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I might look into getting the big daddy rod (for the jeep guys), just want some extra protection for now and then get the system later and keep the big daddy on it (if thats possible) or as a replacement
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...then get the system later and keep the big daddy on it (if thats possible)...

unfortunately, the upgraded steering systems which include the drag link aren't mixable with others tie rods... for example you wouldn't be able to use the currie drag link with big daddy tie rod And I don't think anyone makes just a drank link upgrade.

so you could sell your big daddy tie rod later when you wanted to go to the full upgraded steering... but most people wouldn't end up doing that until they actually broke the drag link and then realize its time to upgrade. In other words, if it were me, I'd save up for the whole thing.
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unfortunately, the upgraded steering systems which include the drag link aren't mixable with others tie rods... for example you wouldn't be able to use the currie drag link with big daddy tie rod And I don't think anyone makes just a drank link upgrade.

so you could sell your big daddy tie rod later when you wanted to go to the full upgraded steering... but most people wouldn't end up doing that until they actually broke the drag link and then realize its time to upgrade. In other words, if it were me, I'd save up for the whole thing.
well that sucks...oh well time to start saving.
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However the currie drag link will work with a stock tie rod when it gets busted....lol

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