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Old 05-17-2006, 03:07 PM   #1
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Question major problem

my 97 4 cyl, keeps dropping RPMS. i think i have narrowed it down to a fuel problem. question is where can i get a fuel pump and filters cheaper the $495 at the dealer and i cant find them on quadratec or 4wd.com. please in need help fast my jeep will not even idle without dying. thanks for any input.

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How did you narrow it down to a fuel problem? About the only way you can do that is by pressure testing the fuel rail to see what the pressure is. Have you checked your throttle position sensor?

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Agree with Jerry. First thing to do is check fuel pressure. I doubt that its the TPS just due to the fact you didnt mention a MIL light. BTW there are no fuel filters on a non-return fuel system (anything OBD II)
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Agree with Jerry. First thing to do is check fuel pressure. I doubt that its the TPS just due to the fact you didnt mention a MIL light. BTW there are no fuel filters on a non-return fuel system (anything OBD II)
His '97 TJ has a large fuel filter that sits right on top of the fuel tank in the fuel pump/regulator assembly.
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Jerry, thats a new one to me....are you sure that you are not looking at the Fuel pressure regulator???? I have seen stranger things from JEEP.... Nonetheless, I am pretty sure its NOT serviced seperatly. This regulator came off my 2000 XJ...Its not supposed to be seperated, but in the call of science, I had to tear it apart to investigate....


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Jerry, thats a new one to me....are you sure that you are not looking at the Fuel pressure regulator???? I have seen stranger things from JEEP....
I absolutely positively 100% know for sure without a doubt without rumor or any other possibility that it's a fact and no jive that there is a big white felt-looking lifetime fuel filter that is inside the pressure regulator assembly.

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Exclamation correct and no

jerry is right there is a fuel filter on my 97 and it can be replaced sepretly dealer quote me $111 for JUST the fuel filter and the pump and filter is $495, i have narrowed it down to a fuel problem by checking the pressure at the injector rails and it is horriable. and the there is no codes in OBD II have already check that. and i am ahead of things but I need to know where i might be able to get on cheaper, the 2 local auto part stores have them on back order and they get them staight from the manufacture (same place as dealer) but they are back ordered for about 3 weeks but at a lower price. and i asked if there was a fuel filter/pump for like a 98 or 99 or hell a 2000 but they said that none of them have filters and the pumps that are available are for 15 and 19 gallon tanks well there is another problem 97 SE have a 12 gallon tank. and they said it wouldnt fit, so back to square one were can I get a fuel filter/pump for cheaper then the dealer that will fit a 97 with its weird 12 gallon tank and filtering abliaty. this kinda sucks you know that
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There is a guy in Florida that has an eBay store called "Fuel-Pump-King". You can buy the regulator (about $50) or the pump (about $90) separately or the entire assembly for $163 and that includes a new seal for the assembly to tank. Shipping is by priority mail at about $15. I bought one from him last week. There are two options for fuel tanks for the 1997 TJ - 15 gallon and 19 gallon. Each used a different assembly. Mine has a 19 gallon tank and the local Jeep parts department was able to tell me that from the VIN. There also may be a part number moulded into the side of the tank that they can use to verify the size - visible with tank in jeep - it's on the left side of lower part of the tank. Mine is P/N 52018768 (19 gallon). Hope this helps.
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I'm still curious about this one and why you believed it was something to do with the fuel pump or filter. Personally, I'd be suspicious of the Throttle Position Sensor.
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i have narrowed it down to a fuel problem by checking the pressure at the injector rails and it is horriable. and the there is no codes in OBD II have already check that. :

he didnt give pressures, but he said he checked it at the rail....
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Depending on where you live you can check a 002 autoparts. Or even Pep Boys, Auto Zone, and Kar Parts. I had to replace my Tahoes and it was 1/4 of the price at 002. Though I did it all my self. with a full 30 Gal. Tank. Not fun. Good luck.

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