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Old 10-12-2012, 11:56 PM   #31
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have a manual and its my DD, but not much rocks around me other wise i MIGHT pick an auto

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I was told my last auto Tj transmission was more prone to having to be rebuilt because it has some sort of vent on top of it and when it sucks in water it ruins everything. I had to have it rebuilt twice... My manual now is what il stick with

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Although my young age, i've driven them all, small engine manual and auto, v8 manual and auto, also T-tronic, and I must say for daily driving i prefer manual, because of better fuel economy, quicker response, and i like to keep revs down, i just try not to contaminate mi city more than it is. On highway, its REALLY comfortable to drive an automatic, also you don't get that tired on long distances and it is quite fun pressing the pedal and hear a big engine "automatically" down shift and go for it. Nevertheless i still prefer manual because of that extra 1mpg.

On mud and dirt roada nothing more fun than a manual, and on muddy roads you have more traction control.

On the dunes with a big engine autos are a wonderful things, when they can hold a gear without down shifting suddenly (that goes on the ecu settings though) if you dont have more hp than you need, good shifting makes you climb up more.

Ice and snow definitely a manual, i dont trust my auto downshifting and making my wheels spin, but modern transmissions have the icey option, with manual mode where you select a gear and stay there no matter what, and traction control also.

For rocks and crawling an automatic is the way to go, you could always use your right hand on the handbrake, right foot on gas and left on clutch, but anyway sometimes you go back and loose your "checkpoint" now that's a pita, auto kinda solve that problem, and torque converter gives a huge boost when pressing both pedals at the same time and then release the brake at stall speed.
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i wanted an automatic because as others have said it makes for easier driving....but after shopping for wranglers for 7 months i realized that at least 75% of the wranglers (TJ's) out there were manuals. i looked at 20 rubicons and all were manuals except one white 2006 model. every sahara i checked out was a manual, and i must have looked at 50 of those.

so i ended up with a manual and now that i have some seat time i am glad i was not able to find a decent deal on an automatic equipped TJ.
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I was told my last auto Tj transmission was more prone to having to be rebuilt because it has some sort of vent on top of it and when it sucks in water it ruins everything. I had to have it rebuilt twice... My manual now is what il stick with
Thats an easy fix I just got done relocating mine to the to p of the case
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:57 AM   #36
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For me, manual transmission every time. I understand autos for rock crawling, buy my TJ is built for multi-purpose, long range excursion type wheeling. When I do encounter the occasional rock garden, I simply lift it into 4lo, 1st gear, and pick my line. I don't understand drivers that think they need to use the clutch instead of compression braking to ease up and over rocks. Then they wonder why their clutches are fried at 50k miles. I also enjoy the manual for the added MPGs over an auto. Another big benefit is the cost of repair. I've owned both autos and manuals my entire driving career, I've replaced only 2 clutches, out of 12 owned, all with well over 125k miles, and 3 auto tranny rebuilds, out of 4 owned, all three at around 100k miles. I've never had a manual transmission fail. I'll pay for a new clutch any day over the cost of repairing an auto. So, for practical purposes, for me it's a manual..
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I have the 5 speed and I love it. To me it's funner and is more sporty than an automatic. Plus, not many people know how to drive stick shift, so, if your buddy wants to drive your jeep, but they don't know how to drive a stick...tough luck! If it was an automatic, you'd have no excuse for them not to drive it.
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Maybe im just a ass but someone asked to drive my auto jeep I just say no.. since ive owned my jeep there has been 3 people that have drove it besides me and thats cuz i was drunk.

I prefer auto for off roading but i miss having a good old 5 speed, still catch myself going for the clutch sometimes..
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manual. its simpler. I'm a fan of having the simplest jeep possible, and autos are a little more complex than I like. fewer cooling problems etc. manual gets my vote.
If you are a fan of the simplest Jeep possible, you'd be driving an old Willy's with a carburetor, no PCM, no intemittent wipers, no in tank fuel pump, no coil link suspension, no radial tires, no AC, no cruise control, no electronics, no shoulder belts, no doors, no top, and not much else that adds performance, comfort, or convenience.

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What I don't get is people say auto because of rocks but when I am crawling she's in 4lo and I don't touch the clutch. Confused! And when I want a different gear I put it there not hope it goes there
Your confusion will go away when you find some bigger rocks.

For the record, you do know that the gear selector on an auto has more slots other than just drive?
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Be interesting to see how many people who posted have actually driven both manual and auto 4wds in all sorts of conditions - city, highway, sand, rocks, mud etc..

I have both.
Nearly didn't buy my TJ because it's an auto but so glad I did. I'll never have another manual 4wd again.

Don't know how that means it's not a 'true Jeep' though
It's a "manly" thing you and I will never understand. I just sold an 03 Rubi with 60 some odd thousand miles on it for two reasons, it was not a color I liked and it was manual.
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Also cheaper and easier to fix!
I work on rigs on a pretty regular basis and have for years. I've never replaced an auto because it quit working. I've never had to have but one rebuilt.

In the same time, I've done at least 10 auto swaps including 4 or 5 AW-4s and I've done at least 10-12 clutch jobs on manuals.

My experience is that manuals are at least a clutch, pressure plate, TOB, and flywheel's worth cheaper to operate.

I've also replaced several manuals that needed to be rebuilt.

Draw whatever conclusion you like, but expense to own and operate is in favor of autos as near as I can tell.
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Be interesting to see how many people who posted have actually driven both manual and auto 4wds in all sorts of conditions - city, highway, sand, rocks, mud etc..

I have both.
Nearly didn't buy my TJ because it's an auto but so glad I did. I'll never have another manual 4wd again.

Don't know how that means it's not a 'true Jeep' though
Yea ik I used to own a 5 speed toyota 4runner and some of the places I go that gave me all kinds of trouble to get up and even had to get pulled up, I can now generally go up in 2hi with my auto in the tj so much nicer being able to focus on the trail and my surroundings instead of having to think about were my feet are
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No offense to the auto lovers out there, but to me its not a true jeep unless its a manual
Yeah your right. They are wimpy
Oh and as Jerry stated I love the low end torque when crawling in my auto.
Gimmie a manual in a camero any day. But not a jeep.
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Auto may be better in sum, but My wife's little crossover is an auto, my pickup is an auto, and I missed driving a stick. So manual for me on our Jeep. I just like driving them. No pros vs cons rationality was applied in that particular decision, just personal preference.

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I love wheeling with an auto. You can just ease up to a obstacle and climb up it pretty smooth. I have never wheeled with a stick but alway see guys stalling and jerking trying to work the clutch climbing up stuff. I see rock crawling with a stick being a hassle. Just my .02
A lot of that depends on how the rig is set up and the skill of the driver. I've wheeled with several folks with manuals that it took several days for me to figure out they were driving an auto.

At the end of the day, it's personal preference, get the one you like and go enjoy it. Neither one has an advantage over the other so it just boils down to what you like. I play in some pretty rough terrain and no one gets left on the trail due to transmission choice and we all make it back to camp every time.
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For me, manual transmission every time. I understand autos for rock crawling, buy my TJ is built for multi-purpose, long range excursion type wheeling. When I do encounter the occasional rock garden, I simply lift it into 4lo, 1st gear, and pick my line. I don't understand drivers that think they need to use the clutch instead of compression braking to ease up and over rocks. Then they wonder why their clutches are fried at 50k miles. I also enjoy the manual for the added MPGs over an auto. Another big benefit is the cost of repair. I've owned both autos and manuals my entire driving career, I've replaced only 2 clutches, out of 12 owned, all with well over 125k miles, and 3 auto tranny rebuilds, out of 4 owned, all three at around 100k miles. I've never had a manual transmission fail. I'll pay for a new clutch any day over the cost of repairing an auto. So, for practical purposes, for me it's a manual..
I just finished a multi purpose rig set up for Hammers level rock crawling, long distance excursion expedition type stuff, excellent highway manners, daily driver capable and the first modification we made was to yank the 6 speed in favor of an AW-4. The average rebuild on them is well over 250,000 miles.
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A lot of that depends on how the rig is set up and the skill of the driver. I've wheeled with several folks with manuals that it took several days for me to figure out they were driving an auto.

At the end of the day, it's personal preference, get the one you like and go enjoy it. Neither one has an advantage over the other so it just boils down to what you like. I play in some pretty rough terrain and no one gets left on the trail due to transmission choice and we all make it back to camp every time.
Well said. (skill of the driver). I have wheeled with others on occasion, and after following me all day, they were shocked that I had a stick.. This has happened many more times than once. (Advantage over another)... Yes, it boils down to what one prefers... Unless one is involved in competition, then one would use common sense and go with whichever set up wins..
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Unless one is involved in competition, then one would use common sense and go with whichever set up wins..
Our entry, the Savvy/Currie rig in the Every Man Challenge series has had 4 class starts, 1 DNF and 3 1st place finishes. We run an auto.
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I've owned 7 stick shift 4x4's. Now I own 3 4x4's with auto's. All around, I prefer the auto's, except on steep downhills.......
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I test drove manual and auto last year when I bought my TJ. I ended up with a manual. It's my DD and I need the acceleration on the highway. All the automatics I test drove seemed to have the acceleration of a Prius in Eco mode! And to me, manuals are just more fun to drive. Maybe it's a control thing.
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LOL...Have you ever driven a late model 4 cylinder Toyota Tacoma with the 4 speed automatic? A TJ with a 6 cylinder and auto trans would seem pretty good after manually downshifting one of those Tacomas to 3rd gear on every other interstate highway hill... and 0-60 in just over 14 seconds with a fiberglass topper and a very light load. I agree manuals are fun and no one asks to drive your Jeep because they can't.
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Maybe it's a control thing.
Not really, but a lot of manual owners incorrectly attempt to justify their choice with that reason.

There really is no need to justify the choice you like. Just say you like it better and quit worrying about what others think.
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5 speeds all day, it makes driving more fun and makes you more in tune with your rig.
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I like the 32rh 3 speed auto because I can slap shift like a manual or drive it like an auto. The gearing of the trans allows me to run 33s with an optimal axle ratio of 4.10, which means I don't have to regear if I swap the right axles, and I can run bigger tires with more power than a manual at the same axle gear. The auto also allowed me to get 22 mpg when my TJ was stock, and I can still get 18 on the highway with 3.07s and 33s... I can wheel with guys with "correctly geared" rigs all day long, because the auto and tq converter helps compensate for the temporary bad gearing. The 32rh and aw4 are two of the best autos out there, and run forever. The auto can actually idle and roll backwards without stalling on steep hills, which is a lot easier and safer than trying to back down or brake down without any engine braking.

oh, and I feel more in tune with my jeep with an auto.
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I prefer manuals in the mud and trail riding i do. Dont do rocks, so thats not a big concern. The JKU im getting my wife shortly will be an auto though....hard enough for her to drive, scream at kids, talk on the phone, fidget with the radio, eat, drink, and whatever act of loonacy shes attempting to do...without having to worry about shifting lol.
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LOL...Have you ever driven a late model 4 cylinder Toyota Tacoma with the 4 speed automatic? A TJ with a 6 cylinder and auto trans would seem pretty good after manually downshifting one of those Tacomas to 3rd gear on every other interstate highway hill... and 0-60 in just over 14 seconds with a fiberglass topper and a very light load. I agree manuals are fun and no one asks to drive your Jeep because they can't.
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If you are a fan of the simplest Jeep possible, you'd be driving an old Willy's with a carburetor, no PCM, no intemittent wipers, no in tank fuel pump, no coil link suspension, no radial tires, no AC, no cruise control, no electronics, no shoulder belts, no doors, no top, and not much else that adds performance, comfort, or convenience.

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I started driving in 1976 in a 1948 CJ2A.......with a carburetor, oil bath air filter, 6 volt electrical system, under seat fuel tank, vacuum operated single wiper, no seat belts, no defroster, and a 3 speed manual......

That was a simple, 'real' Jeep......and a PIA to drive. I've owned dozens of other manuals since then, and don't have one now on purpose. I'll take the auto in my TJ or the auto in my wife's JK any day.......

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