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Old 10-18-2012, 12:52 AM   #91
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In my old truck if i stalled it I could leave it in gear and lurch over a rock by using the starter. Or on a a steep grade i could restart in gear so not roll back. It was a 54 with the start button on the floor. It took at a minimum of three feet to start. In my jeep I have push the clutch all the way in for "saftey". Can that be disabled easily?
Put a fuse in the spot for the auto trans behind the glove compartment

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Old 10-18-2012, 01:05 AM   #92
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That easy. Thanks. Now I have a place to store my fuse for the doors.

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In my old truck if i stalled it I could leave it in gear and lurch over a rock by using the starter. Or on a a steep grade i could restart in gear so not roll back. It was a 54 with the start button on the floor. It took at a minimum of three feet to start. In my jeep I have push the clutch all the way in for "saftey". Can that be disabled easily?
I heard there is a way. I think it's in the manual.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:12 AM   #94
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Put a fuse in the spot for the auto trans behind the glove compartment
Oh, there's the answer.
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In my old truck if i stalled it I could leave it in gear and lurch over a rock by using the starter. Or on a a steep grade i could restart in gear so not roll back. It was a 54 with the start button on the floor. It took at a minimum of three feet to start. In my jeep I have push the clutch all the way in for "saftey". Can that be disabled easily?
Depends on the year and model. The later stuff and Rubis IIRC have the spot for the fuse in the PDC under the hood. Those that have them there also trip a 4wd light on the dash that stays on even in 2wd or similar. Fairly annoying.
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:37 AM   #96
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I have a 97 so it should be in the early category and even if not my 4x light is burnt out.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:50 PM   #97
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I cant add much to this conversation or debate that has not already been stated. When I bought my Jeep it had to a 6 cyl and a 5 speed manual. Blaine did the build on my Jeep earlier this year and upgraded my TC to a 241 and my Trans from an AX 15 to a NV3550 and that was a huge improvement. He had asked if I wanted an auto and I said no way, I have always been a manual fan. Here it is, later that same year I am now in the market for an auto. Blaine didnt even say "I told you so"... My intended use has changed some. Besides, my build consists of doing everything twice....
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I cant add much to this conversation or debate that has not already been stated. When I bought my Jeep it had to a 6 cyl and a 5 speed manual. Blaine did the build on my Jeep earlier this year and upgraded my TC to a 241 and my Trans from an AX 15 to a NV3550 and that was a huge improvement. He had asked if I wanted an auto and I said no way, I have always been a manual fan. Here it is, later that same year I am now in the market for an auto. Blaine didnt even say "I told you so"... My intended use has changed some. Besides, my build consists of doing everything twice....
Bill, there is no reason to say "I told you so". At the point in time when we discussed it, you hinted at playing on the harder stuff, but still very much enjoyed rowing through the gears the rest of the time and that suited your needs perfectly at the time.

You changed, your needs changed, we all do it.
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... My intended use has changed some. Besides, my build consists of doing everything twice....
Hilarious and refreshingly honest!

Sounds so familiar somehow.....
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:23 AM   #100
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Thumbs up Auto.. but like manuals too.

I switched from my last LJ with a six speed manual to an LJ auto again.
Primarily because of breaking my right wrist last year.
My brother bought my six speed manual.
There are things I love about both for sure.
The six speed manual is fantastic, and makes the engine feel like it's got another 25 horsepower to the ground for sure, compared to the auto trans.
But the auto is so much better imo for me when properly geared (at least the first three gears..lol) for everything else.

Good luck, in whatever you decide for you.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:12 PM   #101
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Fun...goes to standard. For off-roading, auto. hands down.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:23 PM   #102
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If it's your only vehicle, weigh your like for rowing through gears weighted with the time spent behind the wheel against the (likely lesser) time of offroading and putting up with the shifting through delicate situations. For my Daily Driver is a 6Speed MT sports car. so when I get behind the wheel of my Jeep... its a polar opposite experience. Lifted vs lowered, slow vs fast, MT vs auto.

But in general for a Jeep.... I say Auto.
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4 vehicles in my house, all of them with a clutch pedal. Cooler lines, trans filters, expensive dealer oil, extra steps on troubleshooting guides, no thanks.
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Having had both off road. I love the fact that the auto converter allows a slight cushion between the tires and the engine. I feel that it allows the tires to hook up easier due to a lighter shock loading. Not that a good stick man can't do it but it just lets you relax a bit more and concentrate on the line. At my age I want to think about surviving the trail. LOL
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I've wheeled both, both have their pros and cons. I bought my TJ with a standard on purpose, because I like standards (and my wife doesn't).

The last Jeep I had that she wouldn't drive was a standard. A 79 Cherokee WT with a 3 speed.
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If it's your only vehicle, weigh your like for rowing through gears weighted with the time spent behind the wheel against the (likely lesser) time of offroading and putting up with the shifting through delicate situations. For my Daily Driver is a 6Speed MT sports car. so when I get behind the wheel of my Jeep... its a polar opposite experience. Lifted vs lowered, slow vs fast, MT vs auto.

But in general for a Jeep.... I say Auto.
^^thats exactly how I am. my dd is a 5 speed. When I get in my jeep I want to relax and enjoy myself not shifting through the gears. And trails its easier to relax also
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:46 PM   #108
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I have both. Six speed manual in my 05 and an automatic in my 95. I like both for offroad and on. THIS summer, my old YJ took most of the beatings as I was doing an axle swap on the TJ (and was not in any real hurry to get it back on the road). I took my daughter out on a couple of wheeling trips this year (YJ) and was glad to have the automatic when she would get started with her endless barrage of odd questions. I really enjoyed spending time with her and trying to answer her questions without worry about shifting gears. I now feel some slipping in the trans and hope to make it last through winter when I can more easily address the problem.

I guess it could be said that if I don't have a passenger(related to me), I prefer the manual off road. With a passenger, the automatic prevails for me off road. In town on a summer day... The manual wins everytime.

Either way, I'd rather be driving a Jeep than any other vehicle.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:54 PM   #109
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I prefer manual over auto any day. It gives you a challenge off road and if you are ever stuck its easier to rock yourself out. It also gives me something to do while driving. And I think manual transmissions last longer than autos.
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My wife refuses to drive a stick. By default I prefer manual trans. Yes, I'm selfish.
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Auto is in my WJ and 5spd in my Tj and auto in my Challenger.
Auto Tj's is the same as putting 4cylinders in them. Why?
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Auto is in my WJ and 5spd in my Tj and auto in my Challenger.
Auto Tj's is the same as putting 4cylinders in them. Why?
Yeah sure buddy.

4cyl is cheaper and was a semi-failed attempt at better fuel consumption. The 4cyl has absolutely no problem offroad and they seem to be pretty damn reliable. The TJ was designed to be used offroad in the first place so I don't see why not? I have a 6cyl by the way.

My TJ is my first auto but I would not have it in manual if there is any choice. It is not like it is a race car and you need quick shifts.
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4 vehicles in my house, all of them with a clutch pedal.
You make it sound like you don't like extra stuff, yet you have another pedal and another fluid reservoir and another fluid line to the clutch slave or put another way, not really more simple or less, just different levels of complexity.

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Yeah, got me there, those pesky trans filters are so difficult to work with every 60,000 miles.


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I'm guessing you haven't seen the ATF+4 on the shelf at Walmart and according to Chrysler, they only license the production to companies that meet the exact specifications for it, so it works just fine.

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Extra steps? Pretty much they work or they don't. It's unlike a manual where it starts making noise and you hop on the forums trying to find out if it is the throw-out bearing, clutch disc, air in a master you can't bleed, yellow metal synchros, or some bearing in some unknown gear assembly that you can't really diagnose until you pull it and take it apart.
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My wife refuses to drive a stick. By default I prefer manual trans. Yes, I'm selfish.
If I felt that way about my wife, I'd consider my reasons for being married or at least one of us should.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:22 AM   #115
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well i like a manual, but in traffic they bite it, in dirt they bite it, on the street they just get to see my rear end pulling away, love my 3sp.
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Last two Jeeps were manual, decided to go with an auto in the LJ Rubi and I'm really warming up to it. 20 years ago, I would've never even considered an auto in a Jeep. I'd see one and think, "an auto, in a Jeep? What are they thinking"? But after 20+ years of driving manuals in big trucks, many twin stick, I'm just plain sick of shifting.

Certainly benefits to each choice, but for many of the kids in this forum who declare it's not a true Jeep, you'll gain wisdom as time goes by and there's not a thing an older person can do to sway you. I know, I WAS YOU not too, too long ago!
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Last two Jeeps were manual, decided to go with an auto in the LJ Rubi and I'm really warming up to it. 20 years ago, I would've never even considered an auto in a Jeep. I'd see one and think, "an auto, in a Jeep? What are they thinking"? But after 20+ years of driving manuals in big trucks, many twin stick, I'm just plain sick of shifting.

Certainly benefits to each choice, but for many of the kids in this forum who declare it's not a true Jeep, you'll gain wisdom as time goes by and there's not a thing an older person can do to sway you. I know, I WAS YOU not too, too long ago!
Oh, I don't know, with experience you gain wisdom, and you don't have to be old to get experience generally.

In my case, I have the benefit of observing those around me and paying attention to what they do. Watching the Currie's compete in TJ's with autos showed me rather quickly that there was little wrong with them.

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