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Old 01-24-2014, 06:04 PM   #1
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Moog tie rod ends?

Are they as bad as I've been reading?

I'm looking at replacing all of them up front because they seem to be worn out. I've got 78k miles on the jeep right now and they've been turning 33" tires for almost 50k of those.

Does that sound about right as far as life expectancy from stock ends?

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Old 01-24-2014, 06:08 PM   #2
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Want bigger get ZJ V8 tie rod ends and adjuster sleeve

Never heard bad about moog but oversize tires do all to the load

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Old 01-24-2014, 06:10 PM   #3
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Want bigger get ZJ V8 tie rod ends and adjuster sleeve Never heard bad about moog but oversize tires do all to the load
That's what I'm looking at. Advance has a discount code that, if used right, can get you an entire zj (only because that drag link is significantly cheaper than the tj one) steering setup for $230. With moog parts.
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Old 01-24-2014, 06:12 PM   #4
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I have used moog front end products for my jeep and 1 ton dodge fwd truck and have not had any problems from them. In my opinion they are better than dura last and masterpro and moog the last I checked are made in the USA . That being said you can also go to jeep and get your oem parts.
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Old 01-25-2014, 03:56 PM   #5
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I grabbed the 3 parts at u pull it

Not counting the $2 entry fee total on check out was $16.50 that was $5 times two for ends plus$1 times two core plus about a buck tax and about $1.50 enviro fee with no charge for adjusting sleeve as it was all together so he just rung it as two tie rod ends
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:01 PM   #6
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All you need to pull them

1 vice grips for cotter pins
2 a 3/4 end wrench for the nuts
3 a harbor freight clamp type tie rod end separator with the right size wrench to turn the forcing bolt
4 a hammer to tap on the separator

Takes less then 10 minutes to separate both ends and you are ready to go
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:47 AM   #7
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I grabbed the 3 parts at u pull it Not counting the $2 entry fee total on check out was $16.50 that was $5 times two for ends plus$1 times two core plus about a buck tax and about $1.50 enviro fee with no charge for adjusting sleeve as it was all together so he just rung it as two tie rod ends

I wish my local junk yards were as cheap as everyone else's. I think I'd rather have brand new parts too. Thanks though.

Are the tie rod ends on the zj bar replaceable? Looking at them online it seems like they're one unit with the bar itself.
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:13 PM   #8
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One is short other one is almost all the way from end on drag link to others side and a small coupling sleeve near the short one that connects them both together turnbuckle style to adjust length
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Separate thought

When we chase mods that make things stronger do we shift damage to more expensive parts?

I noted that with moderate accident damage even the bigger tie rod set up of the V8 ZJ bends with a few examples at junk yard

So in this case probably even with upgrade that is still weakest link but If we made it beefy enough what would fail instead
Knuckle bends or wheel or drag link or frame mounts of steering box
Not sure beefing up weakest link so something else gets to fail is always an advantage

Just a thought
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Separate thought When we chase mods that make things stronger do we shift damage to more expensive parts? I noted that with moderate accident damage even the bigger tie rod set up of the V8 ZJ bends with a few examples at junk yard So in this case probably even with upgrade that is still weakest link but If we made it beefy enough what would fail instead Knuckle bends or wheel or drag link or frame mounts of steering box Not sure beefing up weakest link so something else gets to fail is always an advantage Just a thought
Only reason I'm doing it is because the drag link is cheaper for a zj than a tj. And I'm a tightwad.
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Old 02-26-2014, 05:27 PM   #11
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Ok, I'm looking to do this upgrade as well and I'm finding conflicting information.
I was understanding that the tack bar has a different bend an can't/shouldn't be used.
is this correct?

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google stu-olson's website and look at his post on zj tie rod conversion & follow all the way to the part numbers posted. Works great and you have easy to get parts.

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