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Old 10-15-2010, 07:21 AM   #1
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Need advice on repairs

Hello to everyone. New on the TJ scene so I'd appreciate any advice from this very knowledgeable crowd.

Just bought the Jeep in Blairsville, GA but will register in Murphy, NC. It had some cold running issues so I took it to Jacky Jones Jeep in Haynesville, NC. Found out the following issues need attention, and the associated costs;
1) missing cat converter. replacement cost around $850
2) leaking transfer case. disassemble and reseal, tranny also, around $835
3) needs tune up, clean injectors. cost $340

I thought cutting off and removing a cat converter was a federal offense. However, the guy who sold it to me sold it as a consignment, as is, and is not taking responsibility for this. My fault, I should have crawled underneath and checked. In order to get registered in NC, it must pass the emissions test. No cat, no tag.

Jeep is a 97 2.5 L with auto, 101,700 miles. Is all this worth it or should I just dump the Jeep and get another. Its in very good shape body and chassis wise, and the motor runs quite well once warmed up. Give me your input please. Thanks to all of you.

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You might want to confirm this, but I believe that in the state of GA it is the seller's (private or commercial) responsibility to have the vehicle tested and passed prior to selling. I'll see what I can find on it.

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Go to this site and see what you can do. It is a gray area, because you are taking the vehicle out of state.


http://www.cleanairforce.com/docs/Se...eware_2010.pdf

Of course, the prices you have been quoted are way over the top and won't cost anywhere near that if you do it yourself.
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:20 AM   #4
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It would be a lot cheaper if you would do it yourself. Tune up and cat install is not as difficult as it seems. Good luck.
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:26 AM   #5
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Hello to everyone. New on the TJ scene so I'd appreciate any advice from this very knowledgeable crowd.

Just bought the Jeep in Blairsville, GA but will register in Murphy, NC. It had some cold running issues so I took it to Jacky Jones Jeep in Haynesville, NC. Found out the following issues need attention, and the associated costs;
1) missing cat converter. replacement cost around $850
2) leaking transfer case. disassemble and reseal, tranny also, around $835
3) needs tune up, clean injectors. cost $340

I thought cutting off and removing a cat converter was a federal offense. However, the guy who sold it to me sold it as a consignment, as is, and is not taking responsibility for this. My fault, I should have crawled underneath and checked. In order to get registered in NC, it must pass the emissions test. No cat, no tag.

Jeep is a 97 2.5 L with auto, 101,700 miles. Is all this worth it or should I just dump the Jeep and get another. Its in very good shape body and chassis wise, and the motor runs quite well once warmed up. Give me your input please. Thanks to all of you.
Holy cow! A guy in southern Indiana is charging me $200.00 to install a new cat, and that's parts and labor!

Go to www.quadratrec.com. You can get most if not all of the parts you need there.

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Old 10-15-2010, 02:47 PM   #6
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Doing it myself in Florida isn't a problem, I have a lift and the tools. But in NC, only a vacation cabin and very few tools. Yes, I thought of bringing the Jeep home and doing it but I didn't think it was going to get this complicated.

The dealer is really working well with me. He just called me to tell me he can get an independent muffler shop to install the cat, the 02 sensor and get it all functional for $280 out the door. Since I'm in Florida at this time, and the TJ is in NC, its much easier to just get the dealer to handle this. All in all, my cost will be uner $1500.

I called the guy who sold me the TJ and asked him who took the cat off. I told him it was a federal offense to modify a vehicle emissions system. He claims he didn't know it was missing or removed and apologized for this. He offered to take the TJ back and give me back all my money if I thought the deal was bad. I thought that was pretty honest on his part, he could tell me to stick it. I really don't think he knew it had been modified.

In summation, I'm keeping the TJ and paying the dealer to make it 100% right. I likely paid more than I should have in consideration of the repairs needed. I paid $5650 for the TJ and will now have another $1500 or so for a total of $7200. The vehicle is 100% free of any rust. The chassis looks like new, and considering its 13 years old, the paint is in good shape. The interior is also pretty good. No rips in the seats and they don't sag or feel worn out. Also, the soft top looks to be in great shape. Thanks to all of you in helping me out with this.
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Old 10-15-2010, 04:57 PM   #7
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If its got that many issues, I would return it and keep searching. I got my 97 sport 4.0 auto with 98k for $4400. I thought that was cheap, but I've heard of people getting a 4.0 auto for less with a little more mileage.
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:33 PM   #8
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If its got that many issues, I would return it and keep searching. I got my 97 sport 4.0 auto with 98k for $4400. I thought that was cheap, but I've heard of people getting a 4.0 auto for less with a little more mileage.
You likely know a lot more about TJ prices than I do. However, I've looked for a while and this was one of the better deals. Most in that year range have a lot more miles, some with almost 200K. The cleaner ones in that price/year range are $6k to $8K around here (Florida). A lot of them have been driven in the surf so the rust underneath is an issue. Rust is a real killer. I've been looking for about 4 months. But you know more about this than I do. Thanks for the heads up.

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