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Old 01-30-2013, 09:35 PM   #1
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Need help with fish tailing

added 6in lift fishtailing all over the road needing some insight on what to do to bring back some control

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Old 01-30-2013, 09:42 PM   #2
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We need details about your lift..

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Old 01-30-2013, 09:45 PM   #3
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6 in roughcountry x
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:56 PM   #4
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Not exactly sure what that lift comes with. Give us a list of what parts you added or removed etc and then we can help some more. Welcome to the forum.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:57 PM   #5
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Fish tailing as in the tires are spinning and the back end is sliding? Simple, give it less gas in the monster v8 you must have.
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Is your rear track bar bolted up right? Rear sway bar still there? New joints all tight?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #7
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6 in x lift is adjustable upgraded tire rod drag link and steering stabilizer not much on mechanicing so bare with my not so detailed response...
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:28 PM   #8
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everything is tight and sound
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:07 PM   #9
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everything is tight and sound
Including the control arms?
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:08 PM   #10
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yes even the control arms
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:34 PM   #11
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Bald tires? Slick conditions? Too much skinny pedal?
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:45 PM   #12
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tires less than 1k miles
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:35 AM   #13
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everything is tight and sound
What makes you so certain that everything is tight and sound? Do us all a favor and type a description of your issue that is longer than a run on sentence.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:54 AM   #14
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How's the alignment numbers post lift ? Is your new steering stabilizer beefy enough for the 37" tires ?
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:26 AM   #15
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Starting to think this viper guy is a joke... If you want help, it's usually a better Idea to not send one sentence responses. It will get you no where. I mean some of these guys are good, but I doubt any of them are mind readers.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:57 AM   #16
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This is what has been done with the TJ so far.... Stock dana 30 front Dana 35 rear, the lift is a Rough Country X Seris 6 inch lift, the wheels are from a F250 8 Lug had special adapters made to fit the wheels which the spacers are 1 1/2 inch thick do they s tick out a little futher.... The Main problem after this lift was installed is the REAR End, Not sure if its some thing with the sway bar in the rear but if the jeep is sitting you cant shake side to side like the bar was loose i wonder on the rear bar their is an adapter plate that goes on the rear end for the bar to attach to, Should I order a new rear bar thats biffer and longer so the rear end attachment would be gone? Any help with this rear end issue would be greatly appreciated, the front is ok just the rear, Thanks for your time and responses!
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:21 AM   #17
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I checked out this kit you bought on rough country's site. It appears they gave you a rear Trackbar extension bracket. My guess is even tho they gave you this bracket, your track bars front to rear are probably out of adjustment. The rear is probably not long enough even with the extension. Also with this combo of a 6" short arm Rough country lift and it sounds like wide wheel spacers your jeep is going to drive much different than before. My bet would be geometry issues between the track bars, and its pushing and pulling the axle back and forth and causing the jeep to be squirrely as crap.
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Am I correct in guessing you have 37" tires with wheel adapters, powered through stock D35 axles, and please tell us your SE is not powered by a 4cyl 2.5L ?
If so, the 'fishtailing' issues are the least of your worries...
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I think the Rear Track Bar has a lot to do with it, The POS bracket extension needs to go, I spoke with Rustys Off Road they said the same Rustys has a new HD Track Bar that removes the RC Extension, Rustys is the HD track bar with enough adjustment for the 6 inch lift... Gonna try this it was 159.00 shiped over night... maybe this will help it. I know the wheels with the 1 1/2 spacer (wheel Conversion) dont help the matters, wheels will be Rock Krawler on 37 BFG so no more spacers and see what happens if the track bar dont do the trick... Got a Buddy with a LJ wants a 6 inch Long Arm what kit would you recomend for him and what shocks, Looked a to z at all lifts from Rustys to Rock Krawler. Thanks again for your time and advice Thanks and have a Great Weekend!!
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Am I correct in guessing you have 37" tires with wheel adapters, powered through stock D35 axles, and please tell us your SE is not powered by a 4cyl 2.5L ?
If so, the 'fishtailing' issues are the least of your worries...
thats correct 2.5 81k running strong as ever just not using 5th gear switching gears to a 536 until the 383 stroker and f250 axles are to be installed
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Installing a different track bar isn't going to cure fishtailing, something else is causing that problem. And running 37" tires on your Dana 35 is only going to result in a broken rear axle. That size tire is WAY too big for a Dana 35 and it is too big for the front Dana 30 too... but the biggest problem is with the Dana 35. At this point, you need some local guidance to get you back on track, It appears there are enough problems with your build that we're not going to be able to figure all the problems out on the forum.
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If you can get a video you fish tailing 37s on a D35 with a 2.5 then God bless you, must be a wizard.
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If you can get a video you fish tailing 37s on a D35 with a 2.5 then God bless you, must be a wizard.
btw i also had the hood completely submerged under water crawling out of a 10ft enbankment with no trouble at all... speedo is off 19mph i was running 85mph with no problem until this fish tail effect came about... believe me i was fully impressed by not breaking anything and the impressive pwr that 2.5 had pulling those Mickey T's if u havent seen my pics as mentioned earlier this tire/wheel set up came from an 2012 f250 4x4... roadkill customs in AZ designed the adapters to support this 8 lug pattern
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btw i also had the hood completely submerged under water crawling out of a 10ft enbankment with no trouble at all... speedo is off 19mph i was running 85mph with no problem until this fish tail effect came about... believe me i was fully impressed by not breaking anything and the impressive pwr that 2.5 had pulling those Mickey T's if u havent seen my pics as mentioned earlier this tire/wheel set up came from an 2012 f250 4x4... roadkill customs in AZ designed the adapters to support this 8 lug pattern
Alright, now this is getting ridiculous. Thanks for wasting our time.
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Alright, now this is getting ridiculous. Thanks for wasting our time.
so are u stating that bc ur not believing me on post?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure he doesn't believe you And frankly I'm not sure I do either. I have a stock 06 with a 2.4L. And I can't even come close to 80 mph unless I'm going down hill with a tail wind
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Yeah I'm pretty sure he doesn't believe you And frankly I'm not sure I do either. I have a stock 06 with a 2.4L. And I can't even come close to 80 mph unless I'm going down hill with a tail wind
411 rears running 4k rpm in 3rd clocked with tom tom believe it
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well if it was a garmin gps i might buy it, but tom tom no way . Just joking...

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