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Old 03-24-2013, 04:56 PM   #1
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Hey guys I just picked up a Wrangler TJ few days ago, I was looking at the suspension and I noticed some parts are missing. I need help identifying them and I'm also trying see what Differentials are on it. I was told also that I will need new drive shafts to support the 39'' inch tires on it. If anyone can also help me out if I need anything else.Thanks

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Old 03-24-2013, 05:17 PM   #2
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Just from what I can see in your pics:

Your front sway bar links are missing. Some quality disconnects or a Currie Antirock can fix that.

Your left front bumpstop has fallen out of the cup that holds it.

Looks like a long arm lift with Y links up front. Rubicon Express uses those but not sure if that is what you have.

The rounded oval cover on the rear axle looks to be a D35.
Front looks like a D30. That's a lot of tire for the front axle and definitely too much for a rear D35 if that is what you have.

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Agreed.

Did it come with any drive shafts or did you remove them? From what I can see there aren't any in the pics.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #4
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Are the rear shocks missing? Maybe I am not seeing them.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:29 PM   #5
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Are the rear shocks missing? Maybe I am not seeing them.
I just noticed that too! No rear shocks? No drivelines?
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:31 PM   #6
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Big boy.. Yea, does need some work.

No way that things on stock shafts?
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Probably meaning axle shafts. Also might want to sleeve/truss and gusset those C's
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:44 PM   #8
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wow, what a disaster.

you need a whole bunch more than driveshafts.

best thing you could do is gut that whole thing. rip everything off, all suspension parts, both axles.....completely start over. or part it out, or junkyard it.
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Think the rear shocks are there, just tucked in inside the upper control arms.
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Would also look into adding a rear sway bar in as well...
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How does it drive ?

Or does it drive
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Just from what I can see in your pics:

Your front sway bar links are missing. Some quality disconnects or a Currie Antirock can fix that.

Your left front bumpstop has fallen out of the cup that holds it.

Looks like a long arm lift with Y links up front. Rubicon Express uses those but not sure if that is what you have.

The rounded oval cover on the rear axle looks to be a D35.
Front looks like a D30. That's a lot of tire for the front axle and definitely too much for a rear D35 if that is what you have.
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Agreed.

Did it come with any drive shafts or did you remove them? From what I can see there aren't any in the pics.
Thanks guys, For the sway bar links I see the left bracket is not there how can I fix that? Also for the rear end does anything look missing I know the picture is to dark I'll post some better pictures tomorrow. What do you guys recommend I should do for the Diffs, I'm using the truck for street use mostly no rock climbing. The lift kit that's on it is a Rock Crawler long arm 5.5. 39'' inch tires with 14'' wheels. Also for the drive shafts front and rear. Sorry about all the questions I'm new to the lifted section but a quick learner.
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I'm putting the transmission on it tomorrow. But i don't want to drive it till everything missing is put on. The rear shocks are above the rear axle.
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Probably meaning axle shafts. Also might want to sleeve/truss and gusset those C's
x2 those axels wont last long with those tires on it. Your frt is stronger than your rear axel.

I drive all the time without my frt sway bar connected, but u deffinatly need a rear sway bar.

With that lift you will need an SYE kit for the rear xfer case (slip yoke eliminator) and you will probly also have to go rear CV because of the angle of the dangle.
IMO Tom Woods makes the best. You can call them and they will walk you through what it is they need to make you driveshafts.

Good looking jeep though. Just looks like someone started the lift and got in over their head and decided it was too much work and money. Good luck.

Man, I was going back over the pics and noticed something. Is the rear tracbar Missing????
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x2 those axels wont last long with those tires on it. Your frt is stronger than your rear axel.

I drive all the time without my frt sway bar connected, but u deffinatly need a rear sway bar.

With that lift you will need an SYE kit for the rear xfer case (slip yoke eliminator) and you will probly also have to go rear CV because of the angle of the dangle.
IMO Tom Woods makes the best. You can call them and they will walk you through what it is they need to make you driveshafts.

Good looking jeep though. Just looks like someone started the lift and got in over their head and decided it was too much work and money. Good luck.

Man, I was going back over the pics and noticed something. Is the rear tracbar Missing????
Thanks buddy, I got it for a good price I really like how it stands I wanna fix it up and enjoy it.

You think I can keep the front diff but change the back one, Which one would I have to change to? Also does the front drive shaft have to be changed to?

For the front sway bar link on the left side I don't see a bracket is it missing?

As for the rear trackbar I see a bar that's located above the diff not sure if that's it. I'm gonna post better pictures tomorrow.
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The problem with such big tires is that it puts alot of stress on parts that were not meant to handle them. Doesn't mean that you cannot run the big tires but you have to strengthen the parts. Have you tried picking up one of those tires? I bet they weigh over 100lbs. Toyotas have the same problem with their axel tubes bending when you lift them and add big tires. So you have to weld in trusses to strengthen them.
Yes your left side bracket is missing.
Good that tracbar should connect from one side of the axel to the frame.
If you are not going to be doing any offroad stuff then you may not even need a frt drive shaft. When mine went bad I drove around for 4 months with out one. You only need a frt driveshaft if u are going to use the 4whl drive.
Also you can expect/plan to have your ball joints give out with those big tires. I have had to replace mine with 35's.
The reason you need a SYE is because of the angle of the drive shaft from the xfer to the rear axel is to steep for a regular driveshaft. The SYE gives you about another 4-6 inches of length and decreases the angle of the driveshaft. The CV joint is stronger, basically 2 universal joints hooked together, than a single universal joint.
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Thanks for all the help. The Jeep will be going in to a shop. I'm gonna do a 8.8 with truss for the rear end which I found for a $200 complete with disc brakes and LSD and a D44 for the front which I found for $450 all with 3.73 gears, The shop is also gonna install sway bar end links and rear sway bar. I got quoted $2300 for the labor and they will be installing the transmission too and all new bushings. Also found out that it has SYE Drive shaft for the rear. Again thanks a lot
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Superya got a hell of a deal all the way around. post pics after ya getter done.

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