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Old 01-27-2013, 09:42 AM   #1
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Need Your Expert Advice - Extra Weight of modifications

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I have a '99 TJ that I daily drive and frequently take off roading (every weekend).

I just put a winch on this weekend (surprised how heavy it was) and next will be doing skid plates and rock sliders to protect everything.

My question and concern is this. Between all the steel protection components and a winch this is adding a lot of extra weight; I am concerned this is going to take away the daily driveability with fuel mileage being almost non existent.

I know this sounds petty but I don't want to ruin my Jeep and my enjoyment of it by adding 500+ pounds of weight and then getting 150 miles per tank.

What has your experience been and what have you done?

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:44 AM   #2
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I installed aluminum components. My winch plate, transfer case skid, and engine skid are all aluminum. Various manufacturers make aluminum components. I happened to purchase my parts from undercover fabworks.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:47 AM   #3
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Big Cole....strangely enough i was just looking at their skid system; looks good but pricey.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:00 AM   #4
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WF members,

I have a '99 TJ that I daily drive and frequently take off roading (every weekend).

I just put a winch on this weekend (surprised how heavy it was) and next will be doing skid plates and rock sliders to protect everything.

My question and concern is this. Between all the steel protection components and a winch this is adding a lot of extra weight; I am concerned this is going to take away the daily driveability with fuel mileage being almost non existent.

I know this sounds petty but I don't want to ruin my Jeep and my enjoyment of it by adding 500+ pounds of weight and then getting 150 miles per tank.

What has your experience been and what have you done?
Ever heard of the boiled frog syndrome? Supposedly if you dump a frog in a pan of hot water he will try to jump out because the difference is immediately noticeable. On the other hand, if you put the frog in a pot of cold water and start heating it, you can pretty much boil the frog.

Jeep mods are similar and the most common comment we get from folks when they dump all the steel armor they have added bit by bit incrementally over the years is how much better it rode, drove, and handled after they got rid of it.

Very few rigs for various reasons are modified all at once. Owners tend to buy a few things as time and money permit, install them, get used to how the rig works and then rinse and repeat. For some this is over the course of several years, some it is less but the result is the same, you get used to the ill handling and extra weight bit by bit until it becomes the norm. That is until you remove it all at once and go for a drive.

Then the detrimental weight becomes immediately noticeable. Don't be a boiled frog.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:47 PM   #5
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What Blaine said..

When you take a lot of weight off at once you can tell a world of difference.

In the last year or so I've removed the following steel and/or heavy items from my rig:

Hard top- replaced with a Rampage
steel rockers-replaced with Savvy Aluminum
winch cable- replaced with synthetic line
front bumper-cut down to just past framerails but going away soon.
rear seat-removed for daily use and in storage if needed.

Next: new front bumper and rear bumper/tire carrier in aluminum
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