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Old 08-15-2013, 07:19 PM   #1
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New engine

Hello I have a 2000 jeep se 2.5l 5spd jeep bought it with a light engine tick a few weeks ago. Changed oil and filter. It died today leaving work won't refire after reading threads about it and different options I found a 1997 2.5l motor for good price my question is will it drop in and everything hook up the same as my 2000? Thanks for help

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Old 08-15-2013, 07:58 PM   #2
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If I remember right, you should be able to. Double check with some other peeps though. My 2000 2.5 had a couple donors from 97+

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Old 08-16-2013, 03:12 PM   #3
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Ok thanks
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:17 PM   #4
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Not sure of the price of the new engine but you can rebuild your 2.5 for $300-400 and it can easily be done in a day with the motor still in the car. Take off the head and drop the oil pan and get to work. Take the head to a machine dhop, let them look at it and be done.
If putting a high mileage engine back in, you could be right back where you are now in no time. It's just a thought
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:54 AM   #5
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Thanks the new motor is $200 bucks with an hour drive to pick it up. Complete motor except starter and alt both on my motor less than a year old. Machine shops around here are expensive due to a few local race tracks
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:37 PM   #6
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So I'm going to buy a brand new zero mile rebuilt engine. That should solve all problems and outlast the body. Thank you all for advice and info will post new pics as project develops
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:44 PM   #7
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I did not get a brand new engine things came up funds went away! But I did get a used 2.5l with 113k miles on it. Going to replace all the upper gaskets and put a new timing chain on it. Hoping in next week or so to have the motor in and cruising around before the cold weather gets up here.
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:47 PM   #8
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:42 AM   #9
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Hello anyone have a helpful tip/ hint of a way to remove the head bolts? I have new ones to install once put back together thanks in advance
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:01 PM   #10
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deep socket i think its a 17mm not sure and johnson bar
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:54 PM   #11
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It amazes me at how much rust some of you guys have. I have heard about not buying cars from up north but I had no idea as to how true that really is.
Is there a reason you didn't just fix the motor that was in the jeep? Head bolts should be easy to remove with a breaker bar. Also make sure you torque in the right sequence
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:54 PM   #12
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I wasn't sure the problem in the motor in the jeep and for the head bolts I did not try when posted last post wanted any advice could get before attempted. Big pipe worked and impact
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:55 PM   #14
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That is the "replacement motor" found that problem once got the head off. Yeah me !!!!!
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:57 PM   #15
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This is the current motor in the jeep

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Major gouges in the cylinder walls…so now I check out some options
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:01 PM   #16
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Bummer man! What's the plan?
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:41 PM   #17
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I think I see the problem.... Your missing the 5th and 6th cylinders haha. But I would be trying to get my money back for that motor first.
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:34 AM   #18
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Not sure of a plan was looking at parts for a rebuild but also looking for a complete motor. I got that motor from a guy on craigslist doubt chance of getting money back. The one motor in the jeep is worse than one out of the jeep. Has gouges in cylinder walls so that is a scrap option.
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:48 PM   #19
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Anyone ever change just one piston?
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:00 AM   #20
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Anyone ever change just one piston?
It has been done I normally do the whole shabang when im in there. Just use cheap rings not the chrome mollys ones they never break very well.
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Anyone ever change just one piston?
Should invest in a rebuild or reman. Catastrophic engine damage, such as a hole in piston, indicates that the crown either superheated, there was interference with another object or both. In any case, lots if energy and debris heading in directions it shouldn't.

If your original engine is otherwise solid but tired/worn- out, look at a rebuild of that one or keep and exchange the holed one as a core for a reman.
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Old 10-07-2013, 08:41 AM   #22
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Yeah I would love to do a rebuild or get a reman engine but funds are tight want to get it up an running. The original in the jeep is too far gone scores in the cylinder wall 1/8"-1/4" deep plus I'm sure that one has damage to crank, lobes all the internals because all the shrapnel but the one with just a hole all cylinders look clean going to take pan off to see under side this week
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Are cylinder walls bad on both engines? You could always hone the cylinder walls but I don't think removing 1/4 inch is possible! If the other motor has good cylinders, I would just drop the oil pan, push the old pistons through, get you a ring compressor, and replace all the pistons and bearings.
You can do a complete rebuild in a day with ease. If one of the blocks is good, rebuild. If not, u are up $#!+ creek.
If you are poor, you could do a temporary ghetto job by using parts from the two motors but I wouldn't go that route. You would probably be tearing it down again soon.
I blew a hole similar to yours in the center of the piston and didn't have any other damage. Drop the pan and take a peak. If funds are really tight, just replace the one bad piston. You will need to hone the cylinder wall but you can buy a drill powered honing stone
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Yeah the one block had all good cylinders the one with the gouges is going to be a scrap metal pile. I thought of swapping parts but didn't want to tear down again soon like you said. That's why thinking of doing the one piston with a new one,just wasn't sure how, of any would mess up with one new piston and the rest older.
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Yeah the one block had all good cylinders the one with the gouges is going to be a scrap metal pile. I thought of swapping parts but didn't want to tear down again soon like you said. That's why thinking of doing the one piston with a new one,just wasn't sure how, of any would mess up with one new piston and the rest older.
It's like replacing one single brake pad. But you do what you have to in order to make ends meet. Depression-era mechs would take a broken piston out complete with connecting rod and drive on five. That was a 32 Chevy six...old timer even drove a block of wood into the wrecked cylinder for what reason I don't know.

I have away a good used 2.5 to a buddy a couple years ago. Try CL again but see if you can get a listen/look /inspection first.
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Replacing just the one would be fine but usually u should replace them all.
In your situation, I would just replace the one and be done w it. I would not do it that way because I wouldn't want to tear the motor down again but.... It will at least get u up and running
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Thanks guys the ideas help a lot. Please keep them coming if any more out there.
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Old 10-12-2013, 03:37 AM   #28
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Just for update I ordered a new piston to replace the one with hole in it, should be here Monday or Tuesday so going to remove old one this weekend. Will keep posted
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Piston came out with ease, just waiting for the new one to get here. Have no damage to the cylinder walls and the crank is clean.
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