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Old 11-22-2010, 10:07 AM   #1
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New Shocks with Coil Spacers?

I have shocks that came on a 4 inch RC suspension. I was wondering if anyone has put 1-2 inch coil spacers and had to change to longer shocks...or if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks to all.

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Old 11-22-2010, 10:20 AM   #2
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It is highly recommended to get longer shocks when you install the 2" budget boosts.
Some packages come with the spacers+the longer shocks.

I don't know , however, much about shock lengths and compatibilities as far as 4" lifts though.

Someone should be able to answer this

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Old 11-22-2010, 04:54 PM   #3
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I have shocks that came on a 4 inch RC suspension. I was wondering if anyone has put 1-2 inch coil spacers and had to change to longer shocks...or if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks to all.
4" lift + 2" coil spacers is a horrible idea. Don't do it.

But if you insist, yes you'll need 6" lift shocks, and about 4" of bumpstop extension in front, 5" in rear, and spring retainers.
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:23 PM   #4
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unlimited... i think he's saying he has the SHOCKS from a rough country 4" lift. not that he wants to put a spacer lift on top of a 4" spring lift...
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4" lift + 2" coil spacers is a horrible idea. Don't do it.

But if you insist, yes you'll need 6" lift shocks, and about 4" of bumpstop extension in front, 5" in rear, and spring retainers.
Why are coils spacers bad on a 4 inch lift ?
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I don,t remember him saying anything about having a 4 inch lift ??
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:17 PM   #7
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sounds like he has the shocks from a lift kit. a kit that is 4 inches high. I think he's just confirming the length of the shock to the height of the budget boost
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I have a 4 inch RC suspension lift right now with the shocks that came with the lift. I was wondering if it's okay to install a 1-2 inch coil spring spacer on top of that lift.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:09 AM   #9
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Why are coils spacers bad on a 4 inch lift ?
they reduce the amount of space the 4" coils will have to compress, because they remove 2" of the spring tower. they'll also require adding 2" of bumpstop all the way around, effectively eliminating the nice uptravel gained by the 4" lift.

Read this: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/2-bu...tml#post843914

Springs compress into a specific area...adding longer shocks and taller springs requires enough bumpstops to prevent bottoming out or spring damage. You check that by removing the springs and checking clearances.




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I have a 4 inch RC suspension lift right now with the shocks that came with the lift. I was wondering if it's okay to install a 1-2 inch coil spring spacer on top of that lift.
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4" lift + 2" coil spacers is a horrible idea. Don't do it.

But if you insist, yes you'll need 6" lift shocks, and about 4" of bumpstop extension in front, 5" in rear, and spring retainers.
also don't forget 6" of lift is going to require a super short SYE & double cardan shaft, with adjustable control arms. its also going to ride & drive like absolute crap due to 6" of lift on short arms, with very little caster. don't forget you'll need an alignment too.
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I have a 4in full traction and 1.75 coil spacers . I got them for cheap to clear 35 easy. currently have 33s. What if you don't mind your hungry tire chewing a bit under the fender haha. What I'm trying to say is no bump stops I bought them without for the travel reason. I realize rubbing can/will be a problem but cmon it's only a fender! Hahahahah
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Wont the bigger tire accommodate for tue compression of spring in wheel well. Still getting full compression of spring... just ex 2 inches lower allowing a... for ex ...31 tire instead of 30. Maybe I just can't get it in my head Hahaha
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I have a 4in full traction and 1.75 coil spacers . I got them for cheap to clear 35 easy. currently have 33s. What if you don't mind your hungry tire chewing a bit under the fender haha. What I'm trying to say is no bump stops I bought them without for the travel reason. I realize rubbing can/will be a problem but cmon it's only a fender! Hahahahah
What shocks you running? Whats the collapsed and extended lengths?

FYI: for the front, almost all 4" lift shocks are around 15.5" collapsed length, with 10" travel. 13.5" is the max that will compress into the stock location. So 15.5" shocks act like 2" bumpstops, and will bottom out unless you install 2" bumpstops to prevent that. So if you're running 4" lift shocks, you've got 2" bumpstops that will break if you bottom them out enough times.

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Wont the bigger tire accommodate for tue compression of spring in wheel well. Still getting full compression of spring... just ex 2 inches lower allowing a... for ex ...31 tire instead of 30. Maybe I just can't get it in my head Hahaha
huh? I don't understand what you're saying. Please rephrase in english, using complete sentences and punctuation.
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What shocks you running? Whats the collapsed and extended lengths?

FYI: for the front, almost all 4" lift shocks are around 15.5" collapsed length, with 10" travel. 13.5" is the max that will compress into the stock location. So 15.5" shocks act like 2" bumpstops, and will bottom out unless you install 2" bumpstops to prevent that. So if you're running 4" lift shocks, you've got 2" bumpstops that will break if you bottom them out enough times.

huh? I don't understand what you're saying. Please rephrase in english, using complete sentences and punctuation.
Ok so explain to me how this guys does it with no complaints or any problems.

4 inch lift 1.5 spacer 33s rubs a little bit on flat fender fully compressed but who cares. Seriously it's a jeep. haha (mind you he does NOT have extended bump stops).

So say he put a 2 inch bump stop on would he rub the same amount with 35s?
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Ok so explain to me how this guys does it with no complaints or any problems.

4 inch lift 1.5 spacer 33s rubs a little bit on flat fender fully compressed but who cares. Seriously it's a jeep. haha (mind you he does NOT have extended bump stops).

So say he put a 2 inch bump stop on would he rub the same amount with 35s?
thats a good example of how the spacers don't add height at compression, because the springs still stuff inside the tower. Without knowing the compressed shock length, or how the shocks are mounted its difficult to speculate on the necessary bumpstop height. But if using 15.5" shocks typical for 4" of lift, and stock mounts, then thats a perfectly reasonable flex with 33s at full compression. You can even see in the photos the springs aren't fully stacked, and the compressed height does look like ~2" stops. Pictures of the stops at full compression would tell more...I bet the jounce bumper isn't fully compressed inside the cup, but the shock is probably bottomed out.
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thats a good example of how the spacers don't add height at compression, because the springs still stuff inside the tower. Without knowing the compressed shock length, or how the shocks are mounted its difficult to speculate on the necessary bumpstop height. But if using 15.5" shocks typical for 4" of lift, and stock mounts, then thats a perfectly reasonable flex with 33s at full compression. You can even see in the photos the springs aren't fully stacked, and the compressed height does look like ~2" stops. Pictures of the stops at full compression would tell more...I bet the jounce bumper isn't fully compressed inside the cup, but the shock is probably bottomed out.
Ok I see what your sayin... Thanks for the explanation.

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