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Old 03-12-2014, 02:45 PM   #1
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New tie rod advice

I went to my local 4x4 shop (national chain) to have a suspension check since I have been having so wobble in my steering wheel and they advised I should replace the tie rods since the stock one's are pretty much shot.

Vehicle info: 2005 TJ with 2" body lift, 33" tires, all stock suspension.

They suggested the Currie tie rods, but I wanted some more opinions first.

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Old 03-12-2014, 03:24 PM   #2
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ZJ tierod or currie are the general recommendations. I personally am soon doing the ZJ because its like $75 vs $300
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The Currie Currectlync steering is a great product, but at $470 it's pretty overkill for 33" tires. As Fireaxe suggested, consider a stock TJ draglink and a V-8 ZJ tie rod. Here's the Napa part #'s for the tie rod parts:

NCP 269-6085,

NCP 269-1134, &
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ZJ tierod or currie are the general recommendations. I personally am soon doing the ZJ because its like $75 vs $300
Napa highest quality parts puts the ZJ swap parts at ~175, I bought a new draglink at the dealer for $120 so I could have the new joint at the passenger side wheel too. So I'm in almost $300 but again, it's higher quality than the cheap crap from crown etc.

Also, the currie is near $500. I saw a used one around us on CL for $250, but I had already bought my parts.
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Around $100 for Moog v8 Cherokee mod at Amazon.com plus they have lifetime warranty. Also note the Moog parts are not painted or coated so they tend to rust. Solution simply paint them.
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:42 PM   #7
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I paid $65 for all parts from NAPA. granted I have a friend who works there, but even without, I was quoted at $85 by myself.
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I've found that in the past year or so, Napa seems to be selling two different qualities and prices of a lot of parts. I think so they can compete with places like Auto zone. I've had the counter guys ask me several times if I want the good parts or the Chinese parts.
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Another "not as popular" option is a tie rod similar to what you can get from Iron Rock Offroad. This is what I have. It is a solid bar (1 1/4" thick) that is threaded on each end for stock rod ends. Many people say that it is a waste of money because it is still using stock ends. I have wheeled this set up for probably 2-3 years with no issue. There are numerous scratches in the tie rod from hitting rocks, yet the rod ends are not bent. In this 2-3 years, I did manage to bend the stock drag link (which is now replaced with the currie unit, but still running the same tie rod set up).
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I've found that in the past year or so, Napa seems to be selling two different qualities and prices of a lot of parts. I think so they can compete with places like Auto zone. I've had the counter guys ask me several times if I want the good parts or the Chinese parts.
That's exactly what I'm on about. I can get the cheap stuff for dirt cheap too, both at Napa and elsewhere, but I opt for quality first every time.
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I bought the good stuff from NAPA last month and had $160 in everything. Nice thing about it is I can go into ANY parts store if I'm in an emergency.
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part numbers are part numbers. if you ask for them specifically, they cant give you "cheap" stuff vs good stuff. one part number only has one product
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part numbers are part numbers. if you ask for them specifically, they cant give you "cheap" stuff vs good stuff. one part number only has one product
Hate to break it to you, but NAPA does have different grades of parts.
When I ordered using Moog part #s they gave me cheap crap until I ASKED FOR MOOG
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Bent my stock tie rod twice, the second time completely in half. I went with Currie and haven't had any problems since
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part numbers are part numbers. if you ask for them specifically, they cant give you "cheap" stuff vs good stuff. one part number only has one product
While that makes sense, you stating that the part numbers waterdog listed are quoted @ $85 to the general public does not. Napa doesn't do shop pricing, so I'm stuck with the best deal I can get being their "second Saturday of the month price", which is their best price. That would have saved me $20 on all three part numbers, putting the price around $150. So either you didn't get those specific part numbers, or you're mistaken about the standard quoted price for those parts, even if you got them for $65 (good on you).

If you have a line on the currie currectlync for $300 though, hook me up because I know somebody who's about to order it for substantially more than that.
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While that makes sense, you stating that the part numbers waterdog listed are quoted @ $85 to the general public does not. Napa doesn't do shop pricing, so I'm stuck with the best deal I can get being their "second Saturday of the month price", which is their best price. That would have saved me $20 on all three part numbers, putting the price around $150. So either you didn't get those specific part numbers, or you're mistaken about the standard quoted price for those parts, even if you got them for $65 (good on you).
^^^Yep, I think IIRC, I think I paid about $130 for the parts I listed and that was with a commercial discount...wifey works at a body shop.
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Another "not as popular" option is a tie rod similar to what you can get from Iron Rock Offroad. This is what I have. It is a solid bar (1 1/4" thick) that is threaded on each end for stock rod ends. Many people say that it is a waste of money because it is still using stock ends.
I've been curious about this issue. The XJ upgrade is recommended because the ends are substantially larger, but it seems that the middle of the bar would be much more susceptible to damage than the ends (due to location & physics). While I would prefer the bar itself to bend before damaging rod ends, it seems like the bar itself could be made substantially stronger before damage occurs... even to the smaller stock ends.
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I have the upgraded Rusty's tie-rod which is much beefier than stock. This is the unit I went with several years ago and its worked great. You can see the comparison difference from stock:

Rusty's Tie Rod - HD Replacement (XJ,TJ, ZJ) - Tie Rods & Drag Links - Jeep Steering

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I've been curious about this issue. The XJ upgrade is recommended because the ends are substantially larger, but it seems that the middle of the bar would be much more susceptible to damage than the ends (due to location & physics). While I would prefer the bar itself to bend before damaging rod ends, it seems like the bar itself could be made substantially stronger before damage occurs... even to the smaller stock ends.
The ZJ tie rod is a solid bar with an adjustment sleeve similar to the drag link adjustment sleeve, where as the stock tie rod is a hollow tube which is the adjustment sleeve.
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WOW! Thanks for all the great advice. I'm going to do some research into the brands listed and go from there. I'm not heavy into rock crawling, but do hunt and camp quite a bit and tend to take rough trails.
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napa has different pricing depending on which store. I noticed this when looked up another napa's pricing and it gave me a different price.
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I just ordered the MOOG parts, for the ZJ conversion, from Amazon (cheaper than my local parts stores) plus have free 2 day shipping with Prime. I will post pics of before and after. Thanks for all the help.
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I just ordered the MOOG parts, for the ZJ conversion, from Amazon (cheaper than my local parts stores) plus have free 2 day shipping with Prime. I will post pics of before and after. Thanks for all the help.
Nice. Hope all goes well for you, I'm putting mine on today.
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I just ordered the MOOG parts, for the ZJ conversion, from Amazon (cheaper than my local parts stores) plus have free 2 day shipping with Prime. I will post pics of before and after. Thanks for all the help.
I did the same deal about a month ago thru Amazon. You will be very happy!!! Just make sure you clean them and put a good coat of paint on them
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Have a question about this.. I may have missed the answer somewhere but here goes.
With the ZJ upgrade, you need the tie-rod and tie-rod ends and adjusting sleeve and that's it? The ends will fit into the factory knuckle?
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Have a question about this.. I may have missed the answer somewhere but here goes. With the ZJ upgrade, you need the tie-rod and tie-rod ends and adjusting sleeve and that's it? The ends will fit into the factory knuckle?
On the driver end yes. On the passenger end it's the draglink that connects to the knuckle. I replaced mine with a new unit and I'm glad I did, it was loose and rattling on an '06 with 60k miles. There is no difference in the draglink from TJ to ZJ that I'm aware of but I bought a TJ one from the dealer. My first "made in China" Mopar part. I was sadly disappointed but that's another story. I got it for $120, but I could have gotten a made in China one elsewhere for ~$70.
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I just ordered the MOOG parts, for the ZJ conversion, from Amazon (cheaper than my local parts stores) plus have free 2 day shipping with Prime. I will post pics of before and after. Thanks for all the help.
I did mine like 2 months ago make sure you paint it before you install it. I didn't and mine looks like its been on there 100 years. Other then that I am very happy with it.
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ZJ Mod! get the parts at partsgeek.com it's super cheap there I think around 20 bucks for the ZJ rod
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Ah what the heck. I went ahead and ordered one of these. I like the design & the price. Should be here Monday. I'll report back on this thread if there are any particular impressions worth mentioning.

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