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Old 12-19-2009, 09:59 PM   #1
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Odyssey batteries

Anyone have any experience with Odyssey batteries?

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They are suppose to be better then the new optima batteries. The side posts can handle a winch too with warranty. A lot of guys and gals are going to them. I will be going to one when I need a new battery. (winch & upgraded alternator ) will be when I get the battery.

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Odyssey is making sears diehard batteries i looked at the group 34 for comparison. It's the same battery IMHO.

Size: Group 34 *(Sears P-1 and Odyssey PC1500)

Diehard Price:$189.00

Odyssey Price:$289.00


Specs:

Odyssey:CCA: 825A at 0║F
Reserve capacity: 125 minutes

Diehard: Cold Cranking Amps (CCA at 0 deg.F): 880
Reserve Capacity (RC):135 min.




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Old 12-20-2009, 09:36 AM   #4
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Odyssey batteries

Thanks for the info. They are expensive, and was wondering whether they're worth it.
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The Odyssey battery is the best thing going right now if you offroad and need a battery that can hold up. Fortunately, you can get an Odyssey battery for a little less $$$ by buying the Sears Diehard Platinum 3478-DT which includes a better warranty and warranty support as close as your nearest Sears store.

After three prematurely failed Optima batteries, two Yellow Tops and one Blue Top, I switched to the Diehard Platinum 3478-DT several months ago. What surprised me is that it actually spins my engine dramatically faster while starting than any of my three Optimas ever did.

One thing for sure, you get more battery per square inch with the Odyssey and Diehard Platinum than you do with the Optima's spiral wound cells. Both batteries are AGM but that is where the similarity ends. Take a look at this illustration that shows what I'm talking about.

Odyssey/Diehard Platinum on the left, Optima on the right. There's obviously more battery per square inch with the Odyssey design.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:39 PM   #6
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I install a Die hard platinum ( same battery just gray instead of orange ) in every Jeep I own just as a confidence builder if for nothing else . I think they are great and have never read anything negative about them unlike Optima in any color .
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Guys, thanks very much!
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Just bought a re-branded Odyssey battery as a Sears Die-hard Platinum. Noticed right away how much faster/easier my Jeep started up. Started my Jeep right up after the so called "Blizzard", though I was under almost 2 feet of snow. So I will say the starting ability is great. It does have side bolts too for easy addition of accessories. It was about $185.
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So are all DieHard Platinum batteries re-branded Odyssey batteries? I just got one from a local Sears for $189.99 and my receipt says Grp 34. This was to replace the stock battery on my '04 LJ. I notice the engine seems to turns over so much stronger now, especially after it's been sitting overnight.
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hmm, my Jeep starts up great as it is, the turnover is great. I cant imagine it being sped up even more
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So are all DieHard Platinum batteries re-branded Odyssey batteries? I just got one from a local Sears for $189.99 and my receipt says Grp 34. This was to replace the stock battery on my '04 LJ. I notice the engine seems to turns over so much stronger now, especially after it's been sitting overnight.
Yes, all Diehard Platinums are made for them by Odyssey. I noticed my engine turns over much more rapidily & strongly too after replacing my Optima Blue Top with the Diehard Platinum.
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Diehard here too, about a month old and mine too does turn over faster.
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the Odyssey, Diehard and Exide versions are all made by Northstar.
NorthStar Enthusiast Ultra High Performance Batteries - 99.99% Pure Lead AGM Plate Technology

JP Magazine is doing a test now with Odyssey, DieHard, Northstar brand, and Optima.
I hope they realize the they are really only looking at one battery, against the optima (which I would never even consider)
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Optima is a major advertiser for Jp Magazine so you can bet they will find nothing bad to say about it. Not to mention they won't/can't do a long term reliability test where Optima has had problems since their purchase by Johnson Controls who moved their manufacturing down into Mexico.
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Not to mention Jp Magazine is clueless about battery technology. For just one example, they have been referring to Optimas as gel cell batteries for years which they are not. They did it again recently even after John Cappa left as Editor.
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Yup, I heard the incorrect term GEL all day long at my job.... Technical Service at Yuasa Batteries.

I just got back from a conference in Chicago with all the auto battery makers.
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I install a Die hard platinum ... in every Jeep I own ... and have never read anything negative about them
You want something negative? The suckers are HEAVY! If the lip of your engine compartment is over chest height you're going to need an engine hoist to get it in there without destroying your back! I went to pick mine up with the work car, and saw the rear suspension drop like 2" when i put it in the trunk...
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You want something negative? The suckers are HEAVY!

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If the lip of your engine compartment is over chest height you're going to need an engine hoist to get it in there without destroying your back! I went to pick mine up with the work car, and saw the rear suspension drop like 2" when i put it in the trunk...

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I dunno if you're just in an extra-serious mood today or not Unlimited Rubicon but at least in my experience, the Group 34 Diehard Platinums are indeed substantially heavier than a similar size battery is.

For example, the Diehard Platinum is about 10 lbs. heavier than the same Group 34 size Optima is. And for good reason... there's a lot more lead and a lot more battery inside a Diehard Platinum than there is most other batteries including Optima.

I had to be careful lifting my new Platinums into the battery compartment too so I wouldn't call C.L.'s comments much of an an exaggeration at all.
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I noticed my engine turns over much more rapidily & strongly too after replacing my Optima Blue Top with the Diehard Platinum.
I noticed the same thing with an estimated 20% improvement it starting speed when I went from a yellow top to a red top. I've had 2 yellows and now a red with not a single issue. I tried to buy a diehard, but the idiots at sears couldn't tell me when they could get one in after 30 minutes of talking to them.

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I give a cockroach more credibility than JP. I had a subscription for 2 years util i had too much of their BS. They have advertisements, and advertisements disguised to look like articles and tests.
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I recently picked up the Diehard Platinum recommended by Jerry and I am very happy with it so far! Much stronger on the starts and gives me confidence for the new winch I installed.

However I do have a question for Jerry or anyone who may know, what are the dimensions for the proper sized bolts for the set of posts on the side?

Mine only came with block off plates for the posts, no bolts. I dug through my bins and couldn't come up with any that fit. I'd like to run the winch from the posts.

Thanks in advance!
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I bought a pair of Odyssey batteries a month ago and they were just over $400 for the pair. It is something the way they charge by the area you are located.
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Mine only came with block off plates for the posts, no bolts. I dug through my bins and couldn't come up with any that fit. I'd like to run the winch from the posts.

Thanks in advance!
Any auto parts store will have a pair of the side connector bolts in a bubble pack next to the batteries. I bought mine in Sears when I bought my last Platinum.
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Doh! I didn't see them when I was there but it was late and they were trying to get me out of there. I'll have to stop by and grab a set.

Thanks for the heads up Jerry!
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I will post a link to sears's deal of the day . It changes often and it was only a few weeks ago the batterys were on it. A Platinum for our Jeeps could be had for 158. which is the lowest I have ever seen it. It has come up a couple times in the last few months but that was the lowest I have seen. Bookmark it and check it often . Deal of the Day: One Day Specials - Shop Sears Daily for Hot Deals
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For example, the Diehard Platinum is about 10 lbs. heavier than the same Group 34 size Optima is. And for good reason... there's a lot more lead and a lot more battery inside a Diehard Platinum than there is most other batteries including Optima.

That's kind of an apples to oranges comparison, though. Plate vs. spiral wound.

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I had to be careful lifting my new Platinums into the battery compartment too so I wouldn't call C.L.'s comments much of an an exaggeration at all.

In my experience the battery wasn't heavier than the conventional battery it replaced. YMMV.
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Can the Diehard Platinums be mounted sideways like the Optimas? My Mean Green dual battery tray stacks the batteries on their sides. I think I could easily rework the top clamp for a rectangular battery versus the spiral-wound Optima, but that puts the vents on the side versus the top.

The Sears Platinum has 850cca vs. 750cca, and 134 minute reserve vs. 120 minute reseve for the Optima Yellowtop. The Sears weighs 10lbs more than the Yellowtop. Both are listed at $220, but both frequently go on sale. Based on the specs, the Sears is a slightly better buy.

I use the Group 34D (top post only) versus the Group 34/78D (top and side posts)
Whatever. I gather that my 2005-vintage Optima's are the "old" US-made ones? I certainly have no complaints after 8 years of use. I frequently have run one flat and then recharged it without any issues -that's why I have two batteries, so I can run one down keeping the beer cold, or my Jeeping buddy's insulin cold. I rotate which one I use for starting versus deep discharge once per year by changing the battery switches.
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Yep no problem mounting it on its side, it is a sealed AGM style battery... there is no liquid acid inside.
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There is acid, it is just absorbed. Thus the term AGM (absorbed glass mat)
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There is acid, it is just absorbed. Thus the term AGM (absorbed glass mat)
I never said there was no acid, I said there is no liquid acid and further explained it is an AGM style battery.

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