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Old 09-19-2007, 04:44 PM   #1
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Off-set ball joint

WTF!? The alignment shop said I would need a pair to set the proper caster. No one told me about these. I love surprises! Where can I find them? I need 1 1/2deg.

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WTF!? The alignment shop said I would need a pair to set the proper caster. No one told me about these. I love surprises! Where can I find them? I need 1 1/2deg.
You don't need them in a jeep. Your lift came with adjustable lowers right? Just run them out a bit.

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Old 09-19-2007, 05:00 PM   #3
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He's got the fixed lowers. And I don't think the '06's have cam bolts.
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What are cam bolts? The lowers have have an oval hole where the lower bolts to the axle. I marked them before I took them out.

And my caster is good, I think it was the camber! Sorry bout that.
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Yeah no worries on the castor/camber. I will tell you that virtually no jeep has adjustable ball joints. Your alignment and steering will be just fine with what you have right now.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:18 PM   #6
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My toe in is bad too. How bad will this wear the tires? The caster was good cause I set it myself. Almost perfect he said.
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if the toe is too off, the inside will wear 2x as fast or more.
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I know. I can have them fix that no prob, but the camber is 1 1/2deg off. IDK how that could be so far off though. I was told to go to the dealer about it.
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I know. I can have them fix that no prob, but the camber is 1 1/2deg off. IDK how that could be so far off though. I was told to go to the dealer about it.
Camber is set at the factory. No modifying it without said adjustable ball joints.

Toe in you can fix your self by just using the adjuster sleeve on the drag link. You want between 1/8 and 0 toe in.
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How do I get those adjustments? Where do I measure to get the 1/8 0?
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Yeah I see what you are saying about your camber. Like I said on the phone I'd talk to the dealer about it.

Here's a good link for a driveway alignment.

http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/align/align-1.htm
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All the tech guys at the dealer are gone, so I'll have to call in tomorrow. We'll have to see what happens.
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I talked to the dealer, he said he had never heard of a Jeep being that far off camber. I'll take it in on Mon because they said they're booked until then. But he says the lift shouldn't have caused it.
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You broke something. I know mine didn't move when I lifted mine.
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...And I don't think the '06's have cam bolts.
just fyi for those wanting cam bolts... I saw them on the show room floor at 4 wheel parts. I forget exactly how much they were but they were under $10 i think
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:55 PM   #17
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I love my mechanic but don't like all others because they try to sell me crap I don't need/want. =P
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You broke something. I know mine didn't move when I lifted mine.
I didn't break anything, but the dealer will look at it on Mon. I'm gonna get a 2nd opinion. The Jeep feels normal, no drifting from side to side pulling, etc. And no visible wear on the tires that would indicate a problem.
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I talked to the dealer, he said he had never heard of a Jeep being that far off camber. I'll take it in on Mon because they said they're booked until then. But he says the lift shouldn't have caused it.
Them saying that is a good thing for you. If they are able to find it that far out off camber and he's already admitted to you that lifting it won't cause that then you will more than likely get any repairs covered on the warranty.
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I sure hope so! But these dealers like to try to screw people too. I don't trust them but I don't have much choice.
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I took my Jeep in early, so it's at the dealer right now. They're gonna put in on the alignment rack and see if there is a problem. If there is they're gonna figure out what it is.

Apparently they remember this Jeep from the first owner. I bought the Jeep just before it went to auction in June. It had 2600mi so it was still new. The couple that owned it before me took it in several time complaining about a strange smell. They couldn't figure out why it had a strange smell and couldn't detect anything wrong with it. They replaced all the oil, axles, motor, tranny, etc. and then the catalytic converter also. The old couple (in there 60s) finally decided they no longer wanted the Jeep and gave it back to the dealer for a different one. Nobody but the old lady could smell the smell. So I got it shortly thereafter.

Didn't know any of this until this morning. Originally I was told it just bounced between several dealerships because it wouldn't sell, and was used as a demo. Not the case after all. Oh well, it has an neat story I think.
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uh... no.

Well the dealer called me just now, they said the toe in was off and they fixed it, but the caster and camber were correct. So that means the other alignment shop didn't set the equipment up properly. Now I'm just waiting to hear if the alignment was cover by warranty.
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The alignment was covered by warranty!
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The alignment was covered by warranty!
If they covered an alignment for you after you put a lift and bigger tires on there, then I think you should become fast friends with your service advisor and keep it that way.

I knew your junk was a degree and a half off on Camber. That was just impossible.
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There were VERY nice at the dealer... I'm shocked, I had good service and it was fast too. I only waited for 3hrs.
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Was just looking for old threads realted to what I had.

My front wheels were sitting / \. Tires were wearing on the inside edge of the treads, across the tire. I took the Jeep to my local shop to have it checked out and he said the camber was off 1 1/2 degrees. Got offset (adjustable) upper ball joints to fix problem. When he was changing them, he discovered one of the lower ball joints was shot, changed them too. Now my wheels stand strait. I'm pretty sure this'll help with the little wobble I had also. Too bad my '98 isn't still under warranty.....
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If you'd quit pretending to be Bo & Luke and jumping that poor girl over every gap in the earth you come across, you might not have issues such as these!
Jumping is fun. I say get bigger axles!!
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Don't encourage him, then he'll just jump farther and bend those too!

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