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Old 04-25-2010, 08:26 AM   #1
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Oil Change Methods

Hey Everyone ... I was just wondering how many of you Change your own oil, and how many take it up to get done. I usually change my own When the weather is nice, but when its winter time out and -20 degrees i take it up. It is a very simple job to do but you don't really save all that much money by doing it yourself. I enjoy doing it myself but sometimes a pain in the butt to get rid of the used oil.
So post what you do for oil changes and what your experiences are.

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I change my own oil in 4 family vehicles (used to be 5 but 2 of my kids now live in Philly and do not own vehicles), Done ever 3k no matter what the weather here in the NE. Been doing it for over 40 years and do not trust anyone else to touch my vehicles unless absolutely necessary.

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definitely do it myself. No matter the weather, don't trust anyone to touch my vehicles. Autozone, Napa all those stores take used oil shouldn't be difficult to get rid of it.
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definitely do it myself. No matter the weather, don't trust anyone to touch my vehicles. Autozone, Napa all those stores take used oil shouldn't be difficult to get rid of it.
My town has one of the best, if not the best, recycling programs around. They have a DEP approved oil deposit system and they take all my used oil for free. (I guess I do pay for it with my high real estate taxes)

They also take tires off the rims and most ing else you can think of except auto parts and building materials. That is to keep the home builders and auto repair people away.
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It is a very simple job to do but you don't really save all that much money by doing it yourself.
Your right about it being about the same price, but think of the quality of the filter/oil they are using. They are going to buy the cheapest oil they can get in bulk along with filters. Sure it cost the same but when you do it yourself you know what is going into your engine.

To answer your question I do it myself every 3000, no matter what the weather is like.
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Got this story from Jeep.us41.org/oil, maybe it will change your mind.

My Ten Minute Oil Change Horror Story

Before this story happened, I had a string of bad experiences at the local ten minute oil change shops. I came home one day dripping oil from the oil pan because the drain plug wasn't even screwed on all the way. Once they put in 5W-30 instead of 10W-30 (not a big deal), and when they handed me my receipt, I asked them to refill it with 10W-30, which is what I asked them to put in. They refused, and then claimed they did use 10W-30, but the receipt was wrong. They just made up whatever lie got me out of there becuase they figured the kind of oil wasn't really that important, and who cares what kind is in there.

They may have been right that it wasn't a big deal, but it wasn't worth lying over.

They pulled some other stunts too, such as charging me for the full service even though they did nothing but change my oil. But this story was the final straw. It took a lot to convince me that I wanted to learn anything about my cars. I knew that once I started learning how they worked I would never stop learning and would be paranoid for anyone but me to work on it for the rest of my life. But finally, they just went too far.

I used to own an F-150. I always took it to the local oil change joint up the street to have the oil changed. As time went by, the engine ran worse and worse, even though the oil was changed regularly? Why? Bad oil, bad filters, bad people not doing the full job. I learned this the hard way - I brought my Jeep to them for its first oil change at 3,000 miles.

I went next door and ate while they worked on it, then walked back to see how they were doing. They were fighting the oil filter, having trouble getting it on. They tried and tried, and could not get the thing to attach. Why not? Watched them break three filters, and then I looked at their computer read out. They were looking at my records for my F-150.

So, they were trying to screw the wrong oil filter on my Jeep. I said, "Guys, this is not an F-150. Maybe you should get the right filter.

They got a different filter, and it screwed right on. I was lucky that they hadn't cross-threaded the filter mount on the engine block and destroyed my new Jeep's engine right there at its first oil change. They all laughed and thought it was hilarious. Then one of them told me about how just last week, they themselves had put the wrong filter on someone's car, and that the guy got down the road, and the filter exploded off of the engine and ricocheted around under the hood, with oil shooting out everywhere. He said, in a redneck twang that was hard on the ears of even me, a die-hard Southerner, "We had ta buy him a new enjun!"

They all thought this was comforting to me, I guess.

They then put everything back together and handed it back to me. Of course, they charged me for the highest level of service, which supposedly includes vaccuming, which they didn't do, window washing, which they did not do, and a host of other things, which they did not do. $39.95 out the window.

I got down the street, maybe 1/4 mile, and then smoke started pouring out of the engine. I had an instant panic attack. My engine was on fire! I new absolutely nothing about cars at this time, so I didn't think to check anything. I pulled over, praying that I had not just trashed a brand new Jeep that I was quickly falling in love with.

I ran back to their store, and I went in and said, "My Jeep is on fire down the street!" Two of them piled in a pick up truck and drove down to it to look at it. They came back with it and told me it had oil all over the exhaust manifold and everywhere else, and that the oil was burning off.

Before they told me that, I was remembering the battle with the wrong oil filters, and thinking that maybe they had forgotten to even put oil in it. But, they washed it off, and it was fine.

After I calmed down, I resolved to stop being powerless over my vehicle, which is fully in my circle of control, and instead to get off my prissy butt and learn to change my own oil so that those creeps would never get their hands on it again.

To their credit, they were apologetic and offered me a refund and two free oil changes. But customer service was not the issue. The problem was that they tried to destroy my Jeep right in front of me, thought it was funny, and then sent me away to have billows of smoke pour out from under the hood.

I immediately went online and started finding out how to maintenance my own vehicle, and I've been doing my own service ever since, mostly due to help from the people at JeepForum.com.

If that doesn't convince you to stop letting amateurs change your oil, then nothing will. Hopefully, you are now more determined than ever to do this job on your own from here on out, and never look back to Ten Minute Oil Change Dependency Syndrome.
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i have always changed my own oil since my first vehicle when i was 16 because i want to KNOW things got lubed, the correct oil got put in, and my air filter got replaced. i'm at the point these days where i'm also doing all repairs myself because of sh*t like the above post.

i'm responsible for my jeep, my girlfriend's cobalt, a civic next door, blazer up the street, and now a town & country owned by a work buddy. i do all the oil changes and repairs and maintenance on these vehicles, usually for free on sundays and saturdays. i don't want shops trashing vehicles of my friends' and neighbors' rides. i'm usually paid in beer, pizza, and BBQ though...and i'm happy with that :d
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i do all the oil changes and repairs and maintenance on these vehicles, usually for free on sundays and saturdays. i don't want shops trashing vehicles of my friends' and neighbors' rides. i'm usually paid in beer, pizza, and BBQ though...and i'm happy with that :d
Same here. I tell all my friends to call me first before taking their cars in. If they sit in the garage and B.S. and drink with me it's all free! There is nothing more frustrating then hearing one of your friends say they just paid $500+ for a brake job you could have done yourself for around $100! With quality parts
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i have always changed my own oil since my first vehicle when i was 16 because i want to KNOW things got lubed, the correct oil got put in, and my air filter got replaced. i'm at the point these days where i'm also doing all repairs myself because of sh*t like the above post.

i'm responsible for my jeep, my girlfriend's cobalt, a civic next door, blazer up the street, and now a town & country owned by a work buddy. i do all the oil changes and repairs and maintenance on these vehicles, usually for free on sundays and saturdays. i don't want shops trashing vehicles of my friends' and neighbors' rides. i'm usually paid in beer, pizza, and BBQ though...and i'm happy with that :d
Paid with Beer, Pizza, & BBQ. All I get is a THANKS DAD. And it's worth it.
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I change my own oil in everything I own. As far as cost goes, I get a good deal on my oil (I use synthetic) and they charge a bunch more for it at the shops if they change your oil. I do as many things I can with what I have. I like to know how things are put together and I have heard and seen too many things go wrong taking things places. When I have something I can't do or figure out I take my vehicles to a local guy who is awesome. I live in a small town so rep is very important. He does a great job and hit prices can't be beat. Oil changes are too easy and important to leave to someone else.
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Same here. I tell all my friends to call me first before taking their cars in. If they sit in the garage and B.S. and drink with me it's all free! There is nothing more frustrating then hearing one of your friends say they just paid $500+ for a brake job you could have done yourself for around $100! With quality parts
Exactly! It took me a while to get my friends to call me when they need service before they go spend an arm and a leg. I'm not the best with the big jobs but I have 3 other gear heads on the block. We like a challenge and love working together on the big jobs. I hate having to say "you spent how much?! Why?!"
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Paid with Beer, Pizza, & BBQ. All I get is a THANKS DAD. And it's worth it.
if i had children that'd be good enough for me! at least you've got the piece of mind thst your kid's brakes won't fail, or they won't get stranded due to a dumb, avoidable breakdown.
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i work at an oil changing place. i know that it isnt the best job, they only have 3 of us that work the "pit" regularly. we tried to train a couple people down in the pit. one of them i told to get the hell out and i dont ever want you back in here. the next day i was telling the shop manager about how dumb he was and agreed.

we normally try to keep the people with more common sense down stairs and keep the dumb asses up stairs checking tire pressures and depths, and vacuuming out the cars.

i also work at one of the largest dealerships in witchita and we need to keep the reputation up.
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"if i had children that'd be good enough for me! at least you've got the piece of mind thst your kid's brakes won't fail, or they won't get stranded due to a dumb, avoidable breakdown."

x2. My oldest is getting my TJ and my wife is getting a JK which will be my little one's. I know they will be in proper condition when they change hands and they will stay that way.
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I think I started changing my own oil, and started performing most repairs, really maybe to spite my father. He was somewhat unwilling to work with anyone else on his own cars or housework, including me, so I never really got that chance to bond with him or to learn autos and home repair, and while he was out working on the Explorer and Silverado, I was actually building computers and big into music (guitar, drums, etc). When he passed away my junior year of high school, I "inherited" his 1988 Chevy Silverado 3500 (7.4L 454 big block ) and one of the fastest (albeit most beat up) trucks in the HS lot. An oil change was the first task I learned how to do (thanks to my neighbor), and from there I've really gotten into working on my vehicles (from the 3500, to a Cougar, to a Mustang, now to a Wrangler) with the mindset that I'm doing all of this all on my own. It gives me a great sense of pride to learn something new, usually on my own, and with my own sweat and hours in the garage. In a way, it's not only become a big hobby for me, but also a way to bond with my father, and if not, at least a way to get to know him.

Just this past summer I actually sold off all of his wood-working tools, and a big regret of mine now is never actually learning to use it. But I know that I now couldn't get into something like that. Oh well life goes on

... anyway, I change my oil now because I don't trust those scam-artists at the big shops and don't have the cash for the smaller guys - and it's quicker to just crawl underneath, unbolt, unscrew the filter, change filter, rebolt, and fill then driving to the nearest garage. And while it's not $100 cheaper, it saves at least $15 and the aggravation of upsells. Plus by learning to do all of the basic tasks, overall you save SO much money. I changed my rear shocks for $40 and an hour in the garage, while at the store I'd probably be looking at $120!
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Either me or my sons always change the oil in our vehicles. I've been doing it that way for over forty years. The benefits are that you know you're not getting some POS Fram oil filter and you're using the type of oil you choose.

The TJ has 140,000 miles with no engine work, my Camry has almost 200,000 miles with no work and our S-10 ZR2 has 160,000 with no engine work. Not one of the three uses any oil between changes. I know they could all go down tomorrow but I wonder if they would have lasted this long trusting something as important as oil changes to the goobs at the fast lube places.

The oil in the Camry and ZR2 doesn't even get dirty between 3000 mile changes. The Jeep does but still ticks right along. Even though it's no longer cheaper to do it yourself it's still worth the peace of mind.

I wish I could find the link for an oil filter comparison that was done a few years ago. Definitely make you swear off Fram.
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Either me or my sons always change the oil in our vehicles. I've been doing it that way for over forty years. The benefits are that you know you're not getting some POS Fram oil filter and you're using the type of oil you choose.

The TJ has 140,000 miles with no engine work, my Camry has almost 200,000 miles with no work and our S-10 ZR2 has 160,000 with no engine work. Not one of the three uses any oil between changes. I know they could all go down tomorrow but I wonder if they would have lasted this long trusting something as important as oil changes to the goobs at the fast lube places.

The oil in the Camry and ZR2 doesn't even get dirty between 3000 mile changes. The Jeep does but still ticks right along. Even though it's no longer cheaper to do it yourself it's still worth the peace of mind.

I wish I could find the link for an oil filter comparison that was done a few years ago. Definitely make you swear off Fram.
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Kinda makes me mad because I've used Fram oil filters my entire mechanical career, thinking that c'mon, it can't really matter It seems they're prone to well... not filtering really I know my Wrangler has a Fram on it right now, which I'll have to replace when my next oil change comes around (in June). I also use the Wal-Mart SuperTech oil, simply because I know it's manufactured by Exxon and distributed by Penzoil, and hasn't give me any trouble. Plus, I have yet to see any terrible reviews. Hopefully being a cheapass doesn't bite me on the ass. Though I'll definitely be switching my oil filter.
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Yes, I think that's the link. I'm glad you posted it so others can read it. It was an eye opener for me. A parts guy told me once that the Fram Off Road filter isn't "too bad" but that's hardly a recommendation.

I read somewhere that Fram and a couple of more companies make all the oil filters, but to different specs depending upon what the buyer wants in a filter.

We use AC Delco, Wix or Napa Gold. Sometimes Mobil One when money wasn't so tight. But really for the price, it's probably hard to beat the other three.

Nobody in our family is a maintenance freak but it's simple enough to put the good stuff in your engine.
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Remember to warm the engine/oil before draining....especially in winter.
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Thanks for all your comments. I have had my share of horror stories at the quick lube shops, even though i only take it there once or twice a year when the weather is really cold. The rest of the time i do it myself. I think i'll stick to doing it myself ... even in the winter. It only takes a few minutes to do anyway.
My stories are the same as all of yours. once i told them to put in 10-30 and they put in 5-30, Not a big deal but they didn't listen to me. Another time they only put in 5 quarts instead of 6.
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My dad taught me how to do oil changes, brakes, change hoses etc. I have saved my self thousands of dollars in repairs and mods just by doing them myself. The one time my dad and I brought a car to a shop was when our RV broke down in South Bend, Iowa on a highway. A belt snapped but my dad didnt want to change a belt on a highway with 18 wheelers passing you at 100+ mph. So we had someone tow it and bring it to a local shop. We told them what was wrong(we had the part for them also) so they changed it for $50, oh well. We get about half a mile down the road then the engine starts blowing smoke everywhere. We stop, look under the hood and found that the kids who changed the belt cut one of the antifreeze hoses in order to make more money. They only did this because they knew we were from NY and they were our only source for parts.
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DIY, no body touches my vehicles as a general rule.

I've known people that got free engines after the "quick lube" place forgot to put a filter on, or didn't tighten the plug, etc.

I've also had to work on vehicles after they over tightened the plug and stripped the oil pan.

There's a reason a 16yr old will never touch one of my vehicles. They don't have the knowledge/experience it takes to give me confidence in their abilities.
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I do my own oil, filter and lubes.

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