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Old 12-17-2013, 08:21 PM   #1
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Opinion on front D60's f/s

Came across 2 front axles for sale that I could use for my 1 ton swap. Needing a little input from y'all on which might be the better pick

First axle:
1991 Kingpin D60
4.10's
In good shape complete hub to hub
36.5" center to center
$700 firm

Second axle:
1997 Ball Joint D60
3.55's
Complete hub to hub, needs new ball joints
Asking $500

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Old 12-18-2013, 12:13 AM   #2
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What are you looking to do? Is this a trail rig or a DD? Do you have an fabrication skills?

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Old 12-18-2013, 02:12 AM   #3
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What are you running tire size wise and engine?
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:15 AM   #4
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King pin 60 would be my first choice.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #5
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The only part of the build I'm unsure about is the t-case but pretty much everything is staying as is.
1" BL, 2.5-3.5" suspension 37's. Building a low cog crawler.
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:56 AM   #6
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I already have a Sterling 10.25 for the rear with factory 4.10's
I may consider sticking with 4.10's if I go with the kingpin to save a little on regearing.

Oh and I'll be running coil springs up front not coilovers. A lot of my research issues are coming from 78-79 axle swaps and people going to coilovers which isn't the same setup I'm looking at.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:33 AM   #7
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If you're wanting to swap in a 60, look at the 99-04 Ford Super Duty ball joint 60's. They make the old KP 60's look like child's play.

Personally, I wouldn't want either option you mentioned.
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Old 12-18-2013, 04:10 PM   #8
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If you're wanting to swap in a 60, look at the 99-04 Ford Super Duty ball joint 60's. They make the old KP 60's look like child's play. Personally, I wouldn't want either option you mentioned.
Then I would have to go metric in the rear as well and I already have the rear good to go. Just looking to get a matching front axle going.
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If you're wanting to swap in a 60, look at the 99-04 Ford Super Duty ball joint 60's. They make the old KP 60's look like child's play.

Personally, I wouldn't want either option you mentioned.
I think you meant 05+..............they are 35 spline throughout with bigger balljoints etc. Extremely strong!! 99-04 are strong but only 30 spline outer but there are options for 35 spline and options for a lot of things. The hardest part of a balljoint axle is steering as high steer is easier on a kingpin and some people rather have the easily serviced kingpin axle as the hub assemblies on balljoint axles can get pricey. Either way its kind of a toss up but if you are running coils there is more room to run coils on a kingpin axle. On a balljoint front there would be a lot of casting to cut off and limited room for coils and arms, but its been done. Plus the center chunk is farther out of the way of the engine allowing more uptravel than a kingpin style axle.

Here is the casting cutting I was talking about.........

Thoughts on 04 super duty tons - Page 2 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
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Old 12-18-2013, 10:38 PM   #10
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05+ are great axles as well, I was planning on building a hybrid fab 9/05+ SD60 axle last year but I doubt that'll end up happening. The 99-04 stuff is more plentiful and is what companies like Currie use for their applicable outer components. When the 05+ stuff starts getting more aftermarket attention and some of the current parts start to drop in price (high steer arms, drive slugs) they'll be a much more viable option.

I still think it's worth the time to look into a SD60 axle instead. The casting isn't difficult to section out of the way and the axles are just so damn big and strong compared to the KP stuff.

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