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Old 12-25-2009, 09:56 PM   #1
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ORO U-Turn steering system

ORO Off Road Only Jeep TJ U-Turn Steering System Installation

What do you think of this steering system? There's more info if you click on the link. I'm tired of the sloppy stock setup.

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Old 12-27-2009, 06:39 AM   #2
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Dont get it, I ran this on my jeep for about 6 months and had serious problems with death wobble. I ended up putting the stock system back on to stop the death wobble. I read somewhere that directly connecting the tires to one another instead of the Y scissor style stock steering is what was causing the problems. The Y style allows the tires to flex or pull slightly away from one another when going over bumps, directly connecting them does not and throws off the rotational mass by pulling both tires and hence starting death wobble.

I ended up just giving it away cause i didnt feel right selling it knowing the problems i had with it. In hindsight i should have looked into getting a refund but i deployed shortly after i took it off and figured it had been too much time so seek a refund by the time I returned

I have since gone with the Currie Correctlynk steering and have had zero death wobble. Its a very stought unit, the pictures dont do it justice. I havent compared measurements but it looks just as thick as the ORO

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Old 12-27-2009, 12:25 PM   #3
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What a bummer. It looked like such a great system. What type of steering are other people running?
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:31 PM   #4
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Currie's uber-beefy steering kit never receives anything but rave reviews, that's what I'm running and I strongly recommend it.

Specifically though, what is "sloppy" with your existing steering setup? There may be something else causing your steering issue other than the drag link or tie rod that such kits replace.
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:44 PM   #5
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i love the currie setup on my jeep and it only took 15min + a few to align it to have it completely installed.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:11 PM   #6
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I had the ORO too for about a year and swapped it out for a Currie. In order to get the ORO to function properly you really have to spend some time dialing it in. Once I finally had mine close to dialed in I decided to cut my losses and go with the Currie. Save yourself the headache and go with the Currie. It's a very strong steering system and it is easy to setup.
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As the front suspension goes up or down from acceleration or braking the steering wheel turns left or right while I drive straight. I believe this is from the angles on the Y steering setup changing as the suspension compresses or drops. Will a Currie system fix this?
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As the front suspension goes up or down from acceleration or braking the steering wheel turns left or right while I drive straight. I believe this is from the angles on the Y steering setup changing as the suspension compresses or drops. Will a Currie system fix this?
What you're describing is called "bump steer" and that results from having installed a dropped Pitman arm. Replace the dropped Pitman arm with the factory Pitman arm and your bump steer will be cured. Neither the Currie nor the ORO steering kit will cure that problem, that is strictly dropped Pitman arm related. While older CJs and YJs usually always required dropped Pitman arms after a suspension lift was installed, the TJ's steering system was redesigned so a dropped Pitman arm is only required in very specific and unusual circumstances.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:09 PM   #9
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I've had the same suspension with and without a drop pitman. It behaves the same way. I believe the issue is that a Y style steering system changes toe in or toe out as it cycles up or down while driving. For that reason I thought a 1 ton type system would fix the problem. Is the intersection of the Y on the Currie system in a different location than stock?
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Currie's does not change the geometry in any way. But how your TJ's steering could feel the same with a dropped and a non-dropped Pitman arm is just about the biggest mystery I can think of. Installing a dropped Pitman on a TJ without a corresponding dropped upper trackbar mount will cause bump steer every time.
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I've been doing some research and think I may have found my problem. I run a Skyjacker front trackbar. I seems others who use this system are having similar problems. It relocates the axle end of the trackbar to the top of the axle. I originally had a 3" Full Traction lift. It was a piece of crap, especially the front trackbar, which would flex due to cheap construction. When I installed it , it required me to drill out a bigger hole at the axle mount for a bigger bolt. Upon trying to relace it with another brand, they all used the stock size bolt. The Skyjacker trackbars relocation above the axle kept this from being an issue. I think maybe a better trackbar mounted at the right spot would help, but what do I do about the mounting hole being too big now? A Jeep that wanders isn't fun.
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I'm told the correct description of my issue would be torque steer.
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I'm told the correct description of my issue would be torque steer.
not quite. the turning on acceleration could be classified as torque steer if it only happened in 4 wheel drive. if this is happening on a daily basis while the jeep is in 2 wheel drive, then it is not torque steer.

torque steer is a common problem on high power front wheel drive cars.
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4 wheel drive seems to control the issue. 2WD on the roadway is the place I seem to have problems.
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then your not having torque steer issues. bump steer seems to be the ticket item here
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What do you guys think of my hypothesis that the Skyjacker trackbar is causing my problems?
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A general rule of thumb is to aim for your trac bar and drag link to be running as close to parallel as possible. If you look head on at your front end and find that the raised trac bar bracket is creating a flatter trac bar angle in comparison to your drag link then my guess would be that relocating you trac bar back to its stock location on the axle end would remedy your problem. This may mean that you need to buy a new adjustable trac bar if the skyjacker one is not capable of reaching down to the stock mounting location (Im not familiar with skyjackers trac bar set up). You could also look into using your old stock trac bar and simply getting a trac bar relocation bracket to drop the mounting hole down on the frame end.
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What do you guys think of my hypothesis that the Skyjacker trackbar is causing my problems?
I've heard it's crap and causes the problem you are describing, and should only be used when lifts are over 5" or 6". I think the Skyjacker site even mentions this now.

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