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Old 01-11-2009, 05:16 PM   #1
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Performance chip question

Does anybody know of a good affordable performance chip for the wranglers i want to get a little more power but nothing to seriouse i found this one from jet performance i just dont know anything about it.

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i went with the edge trail jammer kit throttle body cold air intake and module,very easy to install and i also installed a tb spacer. have run it on the dyno and gained 16 hp and 18 lbs torque plus it increased my milage more than double. now if i get into it alot i see high 12 mpg and being easy on it i get up to just under 21. it ran me 500 and i did the install in about 30-45 mins. hope this helps.

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Old 01-11-2009, 06:21 PM   #3
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i went with the edge trail jammer kit throttle body cold air intake and module,very easy to install and i also installed a tb spacer. have run it on the dyno and gained 16 hp and 18 lbs torque plus it increased my milage more than double. now if i get into it alot i see high 12 mpg and being easy on it i get up to just under 21. it ran me 500 and i did the install in about 30-45 mins. hope this helps.
can you upload the dyno sheet?
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if i had a scaner to upload it with but will ask around to people i know and see if they have one. my jeep has 62000 miles on it no other mods than that. just like weight loss not all people get the same results. but this is at the rear wheels;anyways it wont matter when taxes come this year i gonna throw in a golden 4.6 and try some new things with that.
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tried to take a pic of it but neither phone can get a good clear pic of it i will look for my digital.
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tried to take a pic of it but neither phone can get a good clear pic of it i will look for my digital.
im glad someone FINALLY has the proof on paper! apparently first had experience from a product owner is never enough for some people to believe.

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63mm throttle body, cold air, high flow cat + flowmaster 50 + 2.5" pipe, high flow water pump + high flow housing + 180deg thermostat, hypertech programmer. will cap it all off with an electric fan this summer.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:11 PM   #7
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I have a jet chip.

I could go down and get a dyno with and without, but I've run with and without it and my report is:

No change, EXCEPT if I'm running over 3k rpm. THEN, I do have some more oomph. All I can say is that it passes ca smog with the chip (the guy smog'd it and then told me to remove the chip next time as ca can't pass it with the chip installed).

I wouldn't bother to buy one unless you run a lot of high-speed stuff. My chip doesn't help me at all on the rocks.

Just my 2 cents.
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im glad someone FINALLY has the proof on paper! apparently first had experience from a product owner is never enough for some people to believe.

My TJ:
63mm throttle body, cold air, high flow cat + flowmaster 50 + 2.5" pipe, high flow water pump + high flow housing + 180deg thermostat, hypertech programmer. will cap it all off with an electric fan this summer.
How did that bored throttle body work out for you?

The Jet performance chip barely did anything, like Stevens said, I felt a little at higher RPM's, which did help out a bit on the freeway with the 4 cyl. Its really not worth the $250.

Mine has high flow headers, cat and flowmaster 40 with 2.5" pipe but it was already done when I bought it so I'm not sure how big of a difference it made.
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i bought the 63mm ebay one and sent them my core back, it ended up being like $100 or something.

i have my intake piped through the cowl with a scoop, so im actually forcing air into it. i dont know how you can argue with it breathing easier. (like ive said before, i notice it, but that dosent matter to people 900 miles away in front of their computer screens who have read differently)
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:40 PM   #10
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I meant how much of a difference did you feel with the bored throttle body.
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I have a 62 mm TB that was given to me and I notice absolutely no difference in anything.

Regarding chips like a Jet Chip, they are useless around town and only help at WOT (wide open throttle) once you reach near redline... not something many people do much of in a Jeep. Plus they generally require you start using a higher octane fuel just to keep the engine from pinging in even normal driving. I installed a Jet Chip years ago and ended up returning it for a refund a week after buying it since it only did anything at all at high rpms and WOT.

The only benefit you'd notice with a Jet Chip or similar would be at the dragstrip where it'd help a little at extremely high rpms and WOT. ZERO benefit around town or offroad.
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The only difference that I noticed with the Jet Chip is the ability to pass vehicles on the highway if you are so inclined. Other than that, I noticed no difference.
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Jerry, , seriously?
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Jerry, , seriously?
None. But I don't drag race my TJ so maybe I would if I did. But I do drive aggressively and I seriously noticed no change or improvement in anything.
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i am gonna buy the scanner friday when my wife gets paid,but have hip replacement thursday so it may be a week or two befor i get back on but will get it up here.with my setup i notice it from idle to the 4800 rpms after that i burn up my clutch to quick. offroad the response from the throttle is much smother than stock could ever be. but just like diets not all people lose weight.
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ok we sucked it up and bought a scanner cause i wined so much now i cant get the damned thing to work, i think its broke will try with a new one tomorrow want to put that dyno sheet up just to show that this kind of gains are true and not any hype. thanx
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i went with the edge trail jammer kit throttle body cold air intake and module,very easy to install and i also installed a tb spacer. have run it on the dyno and gained 16 hp and 18 lbs torque plus it increased my milage more than double. now if i get into it alot i see high 12 mpg and being easy on it i get up to just under 21. it ran me 500 and i did the install in about 30-45 mins. hope this helps.
I bought the same kit and added a DynoMax Super Turbo Cat Back Kit for about $1,000.00 shipped. I noticed it sounds a lot throatier. Also there is an annoying whistling sound from the air filter at idel. Driving through town there is no difference unless you are passing or mashing the gas pedal. When you are driving down the Autobahn in Germany at 85- 90mph and you try to pass it is nice to feel the Jeep push you back in the seat and take off like a bat out of H3!! though. I really think it depends on how you will be driving it as to whether or not to get a chip.
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I bought the same kit and added a DynoMax Super Turbo Cat Back Kit for about $1,000.00 shipped. I noticed it sounds a lot throatier. Also there is an annoying whistling sound from the air filter at idel. Driving through town there is no difference unless you are passing or mashing the gas pedal. When you are driving down the Autobahn in Germany at 85- 90mph and you try to pass it is nice to feel the Jeep push you back in the seat and take off like a bat out of H3!! though. I really think it depends on how you will be driving it as to whether or not to get a chip.
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yes in the garage at idle i hear the filter a little. most my whistling is from the tb spacer, and thats only at certain rpms.
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i dont have a tb spacer but i will be getting one soon.
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i dont have a tb spacer but i will be getting one soon.
well if you dont like the whistleing with the filter you are gonna hate the throttle body
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I got 500hp out of the ruffled chip, which is 125 more hp then I had with the BBQed chip.
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I got 500hp out of the ruffled chip, which is 125 more hp then I had with the BBQed chip.
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just an update i still cant get under the comp to hook up the scanner yet felling better but will hook up the scaner soon as i feel well enough to. just didnt want anyone to think i was BSing.

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